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Old Dec 16, 2015 | 06:26 AM
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Now does it really need two turbos to make 300hp? I understand needing it for 400hp, but 300? Wasteful and unnecessary cost. Even then for an engine with two turbos, the torque numbers are a bit low for both tunes. Sure one can argue better torque curve or driveability, but its a 3L V6 so that in itself will mitigate a lot of the lag relative to a 4cyl.
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Old Dec 16, 2015 | 07:05 AM
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this is awesome. this is hopefully the first step to revive infiniti's brand and might even bring back the glory days of the g35.
only one thing to say here: WAKE UP TOYOTA! we needed a new engine for the top end IS and GS about 2 years ago!

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Old Dec 16, 2015 | 09:59 AM
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Impressive...Now if they can only make the trunk a little deeper and larger and find a way to prevent carbon build up in their Direct Injection engines.
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Old Dec 16, 2015 | 11:02 AM
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this is awesome. this is hopefully the first step to revive infiniti's brand and might even bring back the glory days of the g35.
only one thing to say here: WAKE UP TOYOTA! we needed a new engine for the top end IS and GS about 2 years ago!
What's wrong with the 3.5L? How fast are you looking to go when speed limits are 55-65mph around the country.
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Old Dec 16, 2015 | 11:03 AM
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Impressive...Now if they can only make the trunk a little deeper and larger and find a way to prevent carbon build up in their Direct Injection engines.
One of the turbos will blow it out of the engine.
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Old Dec 16, 2015 | 11:54 AM
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I went from a IS350 to an A4 to a G37S. What I loved most about the G37S was the power and the handling. Do I miss the power? Maybe but I'm glad I went back to Lexus. I thought about the Q50 for a bit but heard of the problems that car was having especially with the navigation screen. Can't compare the Q50 to the GS350 though as they're different class but engine wise, props to them coming out with a 400hp TT engine.
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Old Dec 16, 2015 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by situman
Now does it really need two turbos to make 300hp? I understand needing it for 400hp, but 300? Wasteful and unnecessary cost. Even then for an engine with two turbos, the torque numbers are a bit low for both tunes. Sure one can argue better torque curve or driveability, but its a 3L V6 so that in itself will mitigate a lot of the lag relative to a 4cyl.
This is not the only 300hp TT 3L motor on the market. It's not that crazy and it needs the torque curve to remain competitive. The current VQ37 gets criticized for not having enough low end torque. It's also not wasteful of this motor and the I4 are the only motors offered...why introduce a 3rd motor? That's what you call unnecessary complexity.

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One of the turbos will blow it out of the engine.
Was that a joke?

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Old Dec 16, 2015 | 12:26 PM
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Was that a joke?[/QUOTE]

Yes it is. Hehe. The reason I dont update my car because lexus is using the 2gr fse for 10 years now. Hopefully it will get update by mid cycle refresh on the IS and not till the next Gen it would be forever!
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Old Dec 16, 2015 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
This is not the only 300hp TT 3L motor on the market. It's not that crazy and it needs the torque curve to remain competitive. The current VQ37 gets criticized for not having enough low end torque. It's also not wasteful of this motor and the I4 are the only motors offered...why introduce a 3rd motor? That's what you call unnecessary complexity.



Was that a joke?
It's amazing how turbo crazy everyone has gone. To each their own I suppose. And no it's not a joke. I live in NY and the speed limit is 55mph and 65mph in Jersey and I have no trouble achieving and exceeding those speeds in my lowly non-turbo ES350 and still get 29mpg.
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Old Dec 16, 2015 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by situman
It's amazing how turbo crazy everyone has gone. To each their own I suppose. And no it's not a joke. I live in NY and the speed limit is 55mph and 65mph in Jersey and I have no trouble achieving and exceeding those speeds in my lowly non-turbo ES350 and still get 29mpg.
Do you know how turbo works?
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Old Dec 16, 2015 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
Love this update! Let's hope this updated steering solves the last of the Q50's issues.





I am in love!!!

I have always loved Infiniti for their performance and handling.

The only let down is that the interior and engines do not last.

My last 2004 Infiniti FX45 had a common driver power seat motor failure issue and a dash trim that bubbles.

The final straw is that most of the older Infiniti/Nissan engines burn oil and began smoking as well around 100k miles, including my 2004 FX45 V8.

If Infiniti have solved the oil burning/interior issues then I would look into buying one the newer Q50 in a heart-beat.

I will look into how well the 2010+ Infiniti models have been doing, because I may become a Infiniti owner again if they got their crap together.
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Old Dec 16, 2015 | 06:08 PM
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New engines sound great... is there any news about new diesel? European PR doesnt mention diesel which is weird.

I wish they updated interior and exterior looks more though. Due to the pricing, I would consider Q50 here in Europe if they add new diesel/AT combo and everything else is good.
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Old Dec 16, 2015 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
New engines sound great... is there any news about new diesel? European PR doesnt mention diesel which is weird.

I wish they updated interior and exterior looks more though. Due to the pricing, I would consider Q50 here in Europe if they add new diesel/AT combo and everything else is good.
True, though I wonder if the 3.0 in either state of tune will have a memorable engine note. The VQ35 gave Infiniti an ubiquitous sound that defined the marque for years.
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Old Dec 16, 2015 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by situman
What's wrong with the 3.5L? How fast are you looking to go when speed limits are 55-65mph around the country.
nothing wrong with the 3.5L in a vacuum, but look at the competition. other makes with equivalent 300HP engines get much better fuel economy and then have choices for 350+, 400+ horsepower.

the facts are, the 2GR-FSE is 10 years old, and toyota is sitting on its laurels and reputation at this point. Or maybe they really just don't have their next generation of engines ready yet.
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Old Dec 18, 2015 | 11:56 AM
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this should help pump some sales into the line. Their lineup has been struggling BIG TIME> The lease deals are like give aways NO joke
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