Infiniti Q50 thread
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I am serious, are you serious?
And are you sure about that "fact" LexFather?
Google is your friend. Nissan is not owned by Renault. Renault has a 43.4% stake in Nissan. Your comment implies that Renault bought out Nissan and/or they own a majority of Nissan. Both are which are incorrect. Here, read this and go learn about the Nissan-Renault alliance:
http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/COMP...NCE/RENAULT03/
And are you sure about that "fact" LexFather?
Google is your friend. Nissan is not owned by Renault. Renault has a 43.4% stake in Nissan. Your comment implies that Renault bought out Nissan and/or they own a majority of Nissan. Both are which are incorrect. Here, read this and go learn about the Nissan-Renault alliance:
http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/COMP...NCE/RENAULT03/
He's mad again!!!
http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/COMP...NCE/RENAULT03/
Renault is the controlling partner at 44%
Nissan owns 15%
“We need to work on shifting speed. One thing engineers are having to resolve for me right now is that the car definitely needs a limited-slip rear differential. When you have any bit of enthusiastic cornering under power, the inside-rear wheel starts spinning. So we need to tame that," said de Nysschen, "Lot of work still to be done - engine management and performance gearbox to talk to each other, but very promising.”
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Renault owns Nissan. Nissan owns I think 12-16% of Renault. This is seriously old news. It's an alliance for marketing purposes lol. Renault owns the company. Its a fact and should not be a tough pill to swallow since it saved Nissan from bankruptcy and saved Infiniti from being discontinued.
He's mad again!!!
http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/COMP...NCE/RENAULT03/
Renault is the controlling partner at 44%
Nissan owns 15%
He's mad again!!!
http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/COMP...NCE/RENAULT03/
Renault is the controlling partner at 44%
Nissan owns 15%
Not that it matters anyway who owns what or what percentage. Not even quite sure why this off topic comment was brought up in the first place?
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“We need to work on shifting speed. One thing engineers are having to resolve for me right now is that the car definitely needs a limited-slip rear differential. When you have any bit of enthusiastic cornering under power, the inside-rear wheel starts spinning. So we need to tame that," said de Nysschen, "Lot of work still to be done - engine management and performance gearbox to talk to each other, but very promising.”
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No competitor will even come close to matching this kind of performance. Pricing will be interesting for sure.
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Wow, just wow. So Nissan owns 56% of Nissan, yet Renault owns Nissan? Only you could try to convince people that owning a minority stake in a company is a majority
Not that it matters anyway who owns what or what percentage. Not even quite sure why this off topic comment was brought up in the first place?
Not that it matters anyway who owns what or what percentage. Not even quite sure why this off topic comment was brought up in the first place?
Right here, owner, Renault. Do you know what a "controlling stake" means? Lol
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan
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Renault owns Nissan. Nissan owns I think 12-16% of Renault. This is seriously old news. It's an alliance for marketing purposes lol. Renault owns the company. Its a fact and should not be a tough pill to swallow since it saved Nissan from bankruptcy and saved Infiniti from being discontinued.
He's mad again!!!
Renault is the controlling partner at 44%
Nissan owns 15%
He's mad again!!!
Renault is the controlling partner at 44%
Nissan owns 15%
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Wow, just wow. So Nissan owns 56% of Nissan, yet Renault owns Nissan? Only you could try to convince people that owning a minority stake in a company is a majority
Not that it matters anyway who owns what or what percentage. Not even quite sure why this off topic comment was brought up in the first place?
Not that it matters anyway who owns what or what percentage. Not even quite sure why this off topic comment was brought up in the first place?
http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/IR/STOCK/INFORMATION/
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The alliance itself is incorporated as the Renault-Nissan B.V., founded on 28 March 2002 under Dutch law. Renault-Nissan B.V. is equally owned by Renault and Nissan.
But again, does any of this matter? I don't understand why you keep bringing this up?
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This is so hilarious
Sadly a 100k Q50 will be an extremely tough sale looking at how they can't sell a 50-70k M. A 100k M with this engine at least makes more sense since it's a E/5 competitor. They are saying 100k for a car a class below it. Good luck.
Sadly a 100k Q50 will be an extremely tough sale looking at how they can't sell a 50-70k M. A 100k M with this engine at least makes more sense since it's a E/5 competitor. They are saying 100k for a car a class below it. Good luck.
Last edited by LexFather; Jun 24, 2014 at 11:16 PM.
“I would have to say in order to set expectations, we’re probably looking at a $100,000 car," said de Nysschen, "We are probably also looking at 250-500 units a year. And we probably have, in terms of my current expectation, only a two-year life cycle.
I wish them luck. Infiniti is shaping up to be a great brand for enthusiast drivers (and has been for a while with the G/M/FX). I see nothing but good things coming from them, and now Lexus with Mr. Toyoda calling the shots
Perhaps my prayers for a Japanese BMW are finally being answered
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They have been selling 50-70k Ms for years now, where you been?
They also sell 70k-80k QX80s (one of the two big players in the full size Luxury SUV segment), where you been?
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I'm personally glad to see the 560hp Q built...its the largest car I would consider buying. They said themselves it will be a limited, low volume car.
also - I think most M3s sold will be $80-85K for 130 less HP (still under rated?)
Last edited by bagwell; Jun 25, 2014 at 06:26 AM.
you don't need to respond to every point and it's ok for people to disagree, even on what each believes to be 'facts'.
who owns what portion of who is really not a big deal in the end.
so last warning in this thread - be polite and respectful, or leave the thread.
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where does all this hate for Nissan come from?
I'm personally glad to see the 560hp Q built...its the largest car I would consider buying. They said themselves it will be a limited, low volume car.
also - I think most M3s sold will be $80-85K for 130 less HP (still under rated?)
I'm personally glad to see the 560hp Q built...its the largest car I would consider buying. They said themselves it will be a limited, low volume car.
also - I think most M3s sold will be $80-85K for 130 less HP (still under rated?)
M3s can command those prices and they make money
They won't sell a lot. But you know that's not the point of the car. It's a brand builder, just like the LFA was for Lexus. We all know the LFA lost money. This is why companies conduct portfolio modeling, because products are not independent. They influence the sales of one another. One car brings someone into a dealership, another car is the one they drive home. I feel cooler, sitting in my S4, every time I see an R8 with the same 4 rings on the hood as I have on my car; I'm sure those currently driving a Lexus have the same feeling when they see the LFA, and Infiniti drivers will get that feeling when they see one of these.