2014 Corolla official pics!
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bulb has multiple led's inside... plus this one is not bi-led as well as probably newer tech means stronger individual leds inside. Progress.
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but LED Headlights is pretty cool and it seems that they have quite few talking points this time around.
as to Camry, I would guess next year for MY2015, as thats 3 years for Camry and usual age Toyota gives it facelift.
as to Camry, I would guess next year for MY2015, as thats 3 years for Camry and usual age Toyota gives it facelift.
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I'm sure they see different trends and try to make the best decisions possible. Some "small touch ups" cost more than others, and some are more effective than others.
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:-)
I used to be big on "features", but in reality, we both know that Corolla could have all the coolest tech in the world, but it will still be a Toyota and not an Lexus.
Personally I like what they did with IS300h base equipment where we get Xenons and screen in base, and I think they are moving in right direction for me personally - I wont have to get top equipment just to make car look OK, like I/we had before. Next model - Base here we come.
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Very interesting headlight design. Optional LED headlights? Thats unexpected.
http://apps.moontoast.com/toyota/vote/
http://apps.moontoast.com/toyota/vote/
Now THAT is unexpected! Amazing stuff by Toyota, who ever would have expected that? That's a showstopper of an option right there for the compact class.
Now just wait and see what the haters will say about such a big surprising feature.
What we see so far is very encouraging, IMO. Front end, headlights, wheels, center stack...looks sharp! In my current car search, I've done some poking and prodding of resources and the word is that the 2015 Camry will get a major rework putting it in line with the styling of the Avalon and this new Corolla.
So going by that pattern, Toyota will give a MAJOR refresh to the Camry, followed soon by an all-new next-gen model. The 2014 Tundra is a major refresh as well, and in the next 2 years we should probably see an all-new Tundra.
This is a Corolla, one of Toyota's low end models. The fact that it's getting ANY LED headlights at all is extraordinary.
It's preposterous to expect dual LED bulbs on a Corolla at this point.
Fact is, Toyota in the past did "small touch ups here and there" at mid-cycle refreshes, which didn't amount to much. Toyota correctly decided to have more significant mid-cycle refreshes.
Small touch ups do still occur once in a while, like the 2013 Camry getting upgraded door panels. Toyota still does minor touch ups like this when needed, and often the touch ups are so minor many don't notice them.
So in summation, you have more major mid-cycle refreshes occurring, and small touch ups here and there only as needed. Toyota no longer wastes time doing mid-cycle small touch ups just for the sake of touch ups. Toyota now at mid-cycle only does more noticeable changes, that are worth doing.
Haters will always find something to hate. Lexus models have a ton of details and features that the Corolla does not.
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I'm glad you're not running Toyota .
Fact is, Toyota in the past did "small touch ups here and there" at mid-cycle refreshes, which didn't amount to much. Toyota correctly decided to have more significant mid-cycle refreshes.
Small touch ups do still occur once in a while, like the 2013 Camry getting upgraded door panels. Toyota still does minor touch ups like this when needed, and often the touch ups are so minor many don't notice them.
So in summation, you have more major mid-cycle refreshes occurring, and small touch ups here and there only as needed. Toyota no longer wastes time doing mid-cycle small touch ups just for the sake of touch ups. Toyota now at mid-cycle only does more noticeable changes, that are worth doing.
Haters will always find something to hate. Lexus models have a ton of details and features that the Corolla does not.
This is how you do things properly and stay with caught up with the competition. Lexus waits till the next generation or the mid cycle to add even LED strips to their cars. I mean, it would be nice if all Lexus cars had a consistent look to them.
Mercedes is doing both significant mid cycle refreshes but also make small touch outs every year. Thats just my opinion that Lexus is too slow to react. Adding a new or discontinuing a color does not count as a touch up
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Its not just touch ups for the sake of touch ups. its touch ups to stay with the times. Im just going to use Mercedes as an example. 2008 C class came out with new generation, 2009 added driver side seat memory buttons and 'hood' over the speedo to create (I forget what you call them) the tunnels over the gauges. then 2010 rolls out with new side mirrors and LED strips instead of fogs. This was to keep up with the times. by the time 2011 rolled out, every mercedes car in the lineup had LED strips. 2011 C class rolls out with power lumbar support, 2012 was the huge mid cycle refresh with updated interior dash/screen front headlights, front and rear bumpers, front and rear lights and not to forget the new engines.
This is how you do things properly and stay with caught up with the competition. Lexus waits till the next generation or the mid cycle to add even LED strips to their cars. I mean, it would be nice if all Lexus cars had a consistent look to them.
Mercedes is doing both significant mid cycle refreshes but also make small touch outs every year. Thats just my opinion that Lexus is too slow to react. Adding a new or discontinuing a color does not count as a touch up
This is how you do things properly and stay with caught up with the competition. Lexus waits till the next generation or the mid cycle to add even LED strips to their cars. I mean, it would be nice if all Lexus cars had a consistent look to them.
Mercedes is doing both significant mid cycle refreshes but also make small touch outs every year. Thats just my opinion that Lexus is too slow to react. Adding a new or discontinuing a color does not count as a touch up
You definitely seem like a bigger Mercedes fan than a Lexus fan.
With luxury cars in particular, there is such a thing as updating too often.
With that said, Lexus has done a great job adding optional LED headlamps on almost every model. Lexus has also done a great job continually updating and improving the IS-F.
To "stay with the times"? That's quite arbitrary. Who decides what constitutes "the times"? It's the automakers themselves, who create those trends.
Luxury cars are supposed to have more timeless qualities and detailed features, not just the gimmick of the day.
As for the Toyota brand, as a mainstream brand things are different of course. Lexus is different from Toyota as a brand, and both have different priorities.
Lexus now has a unified front end face/styling theme, yet some hate on that. You can never please everyone.
No matter how good Lexus does, or what they do, there will always be hate.
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WTF do you mean by hate? I was only asking a simple technical question. It's a fact that all LEDs so far have much narrower breadth of illumination than HIDs and halogens, and that's why all LED headlights in all cars from all automakers so far have to have more than one LED bulb on each side for safety reasons. Unless there's a breakthrough in LED technologies it is more than reasonable to question how the Corolla manages to have just one LED on each side while maintaining enough breadth of illumination to be considered safe for night driving.
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WTF do you mean by hate? I was only asking a simple technical question. It's a fact that all LEDs so far have much narrower breadth of illumination than HIDs and halogens, and that's why all LED headlights in all cars from all automakers so far have to have more than one LED bulb on each side for safety reasons. Unless there's a breakthrough in LED technologies it is more than reasonable to question how the Corolla manages to have just one LED on each side while maintaining enough breadth of illumination to be considered safe for night driving.
Good of you to clarify yourself though.
As for the technical aspects, as usual, you are jumping to conclusions without having all the facts. Maybe it's a further development of LED technology? Maybe there is something we don't know yet? Do you really think Toyota made a flawed design on purpose, and that some random poster on the internet (you) discovered Toyota's glaring mistake?
Continually making conclusions without having all relevant information is just plain silly.
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Also a little common sense goes a long way. Just by looking at the picture you can see a regular bulb to the left of the LED bulb assembly. So obviously the headlight overall will offer more than enough illumination.