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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 01:12 AM
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Default 2013 C&D 10 best

Audi A6 3.0T/S6/A7 3.0T/S7
BMW 3 Series
Ford Focus/ST
Ford Mustang GT/Boss 302
Honda Accord
Honda Fit
Mazda MX-5
Porsche Boxter/S
Scion FR-S/Subaru BR-Z
Volkswagen Golf/GTI


3 series and Accord are on it every year so they should just call it the other 8 best or something lol
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 03:23 AM
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I'll take the fr-s/br-z !!
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 04:53 AM
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Man they are straight up retarded putting the Ford Focus on that 10 best list. The automatic tranny in those cars is a complete and utter dog. Shifts are very clunky and there has been more than one recall on that tranny. Of course the manual tranny cars drive great, but you know 90% of people buy the automatic, so why recommend a car that simply doesn't work for 90% of the people.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 07:24 AM
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Honda Fit? The larger Civic and waay larger Accord get better MPG.

and Miata MX-5??? at one time, definitely...but not now.

Porchse Boxster/S...underpowered and overpriced now.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 08:48 AM
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I agree Bagwell, I don't know how the Fit is still on there. Yes when it debuted it was nice... but they haven't done anything to it since.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Aron9000
Man they are straight up retarded putting the Ford Focus on that 10 best list. The automatic tranny in those cars is a complete and utter dog. Shifts are very clunky and there has been more than one recall on that tranny. Of course the manual tranny cars drive great, but you know 90% of people buy the automatic, so why recommend a car that simply doesn't work for 90% of the people.
C&D, like other enthusiast magazines, generally prefers a conventional three-pedal manual, even though most auto buyers generally go for the automatic. So they rate the 10 Best cars in their own view, not necessarily the public's, though, of course, the Audis on the list are not available with American-market manual transmissions.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 10:59 AM
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In a related story, the magazine has changed its name. Now called C&H, short for Car and Honda.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 11:06 AM
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Congrats to the Stang and Focus !!!!

I'd rather see the GS > the A6 in this 10 best
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Originally Posted by doublehh03
Audi A6 3.0T/S6/A7 3.0T/S7
BMW 3 Series
Ford Focus/ST
Ford Mustang GT/Boss 302
Honda Accord
Honda Fit
Mazda MX-5
Porsche Boxter/S
Scion FR-S/Subaru BR-Z
Volkswagen Golf/GTI


3 series and Accord are on it every year so they should just call it the other 8 best or something lol
AMEN.
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In a related story, the magazine has changed its name. Now called C&H, short for Car and Honda.

More C&BMW.
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Originally Posted by bagwell
Honda Fit? The larger Civic and waay larger Accord get better MPG.

and Miata MX-5??? at one time, definitely...but not now.
The Miata, though small, light, nimble, and relatively low-powered, is sport-oriented and generally not designed to get outstanding mileage. Its gearing, with all of the transmissions (5MT, 6MT, 6AT) tends to be on the short side, pumping up engine RPM and noise. That's why all three transmissions get virtually the same MPG........21 or 22 City, 28 Highway.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 05:07 PM
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^^ Yup, my 5MT Miata gets me about 26 MPG (about 60% freeway). At freeway cruise speeds, my RPM is around 4k. Not exactly the most fuel efficient car, but it's still pretty decent for a sports car. I'm surprised to see the MX-5 on the list, seeing that the NC model has been around since 2005 (2006 MY).
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
The Miata, though small, light, nimble, and relatively low-powered, is sport-oriented and generally not designed to get outstanding mileage. Its gearing, with all of the transmissions (5MT, 6MT, 6AT) tends to be on the short side, pumping up engine RPM and noise. That's why all three transmissions get virtually the same MPG........21 or 22 City, 28 Highway.
no reason not to have a tall 6th gear.
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FR-S baby!!!
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The automatic tranny in those cars is a complete and utter dog.
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