2013 Avalon reviews are stunning
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Avalon has small presentation details done right.
From LED DRL tubes to cool HIDs to interior start sequence that lights up in a motion to 5 touch sensor behind ventilation selector... it is just cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...nzaiBQuo#t=36s
From LED DRL tubes to cool HIDs to interior start sequence that lights up in a motion to 5 touch sensor behind ventilation selector... it is just cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...nzaiBQuo#t=36s
Last edited by spwolf; Nov 4, 2012 at 02:25 PM.
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i have to post few of these, since they do show clear progress. For some reason these pics on pressroom.toyota.com are not of greatest quality even in large resolutions.
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i hate to always bring opposite point, but I surely hope, and so do all 10 magazines that I have read Avalon reviews in, that all future Toyota interiors are built with same kind of "horrible profusion of surfaces, textures, colors, and shapes that ultimately equals fugly".
I have yet to read one sentence from any magazine about ugly Avalon and especially about cheap interior, in fact every single review was extremely positive about interior and quite few mentioned it is actually nicer than ES (and they all dissed previous Toyota interiors, so it is not like Toyota subscribed to good reviews in that regard).
It would be actually cool if you could find some time in next 2-3 weeks to go and check it out in real life and tell us how it felt in person, and much appreciated too (if you could find time). As this is the future of Toyota interiors, and similar things will be found in many future Toyota's, like Rav4 and others.
I have yet to read one sentence from any magazine about ugly Avalon and especially about cheap interior, in fact every single review was extremely positive about interior and quite few mentioned it is actually nicer than ES (and they all dissed previous Toyota interiors, so it is not like Toyota subscribed to good reviews in that regard).
It would be actually cool if you could find some time in next 2-3 weeks to go and check it out in real life and tell us how it felt in person, and much appreciated too (if you could find time). As this is the future of Toyota interiors, and similar things will be found in many future Toyota's, like Rav4 and others.
thanks 
i don't agree with your statement either.
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As to 84Cressida, he was comparing JDM Toyota Engineers vs US Toyota Engineers (since US did the Avalon). I do think that Avalon is part of the greater global push from Toyota on interiors, as some of it can be seen in new Corolla/Auris, although it does have 80's style digital clock. However there are other pretty cool parts to Auris that I hope to prove correct once I get to see the car in real life.
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haha, mind was faster than the fingers , it is complete mess, sorry... multitasking does not work always :-).
As to 84Cressida, he was comparing JDM Toyota Engineers vs US Toyota Engineers (since US did the Avalon). I do think that Avalon is part of the greater global push from Toyota on interiors, as some of it can be seen in new Corolla/Auris, although it does have 80's style digital clock. However there are other pretty cool parts to Auris that I hope to prove correct once I get to see the car in real life.
As to 84Cressida, he was comparing JDM Toyota Engineers vs US Toyota Engineers (since US did the Avalon). I do think that Avalon is part of the greater global push from Toyota on interiors, as some of it can be seen in new Corolla/Auris, although it does have 80's style digital clock. However there are other pretty cool parts to Auris that I hope to prove correct once I get to see the car in real life.
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What is wrong with the effort they put in the Camry? The numbers don't lie as its selling very well.
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The Avalon was a dramatic change from the previous one. The Camry wasn't. I like the Camry, and certainly roll my eyes at "enthusiasts" *****ing about it being #1, but compared to Honda and Nissan's efforts, Toyota hit a single, maybe a double.
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I wouldn't call the new Avalon stunning. It's just a radical change from a previous stale and plain car.
What I would say however, is the new Avalon is light years ahead of the Camry as far as presence and grace go. It's like they are cars from two different companies. There is no relation with front and rear styling or interior layout between the two. It appears the Avalon went forward into the future, while the Camry backdated itself.
So I'd say the worst thing about the new Avalon is it makes the Camry look like what it could have been. And I don't want to hear about leading Camry sales. The car could have had Avalon sophistication and sold even better.
What I would say however, is the new Avalon is light years ahead of the Camry as far as presence and grace go. It's like they are cars from two different companies. There is no relation with front and rear styling or interior layout between the two. It appears the Avalon went forward into the future, while the Camry backdated itself.
So I'd say the worst thing about the new Avalon is it makes the Camry look like what it could have been. And I don't want to hear about leading Camry sales. The car could have had Avalon sophistication and sold even better.
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I wouldn't call the new Avalon stunning. It's just a radical change from a previous stale and plain car.
What I would say however, is the new Avalon is light years ahead of the Camry as far as presence and grace go. It's like they are cars from two different companies. There is no relation with front and rear styling or interior layout between the two. It appears the Avalon went forward into the future, while the Camry backdated itself.
So I'd say the worst thing about the new Avalon is it makes the Camry look like what it could have been. And I don't want to hear about leading Camry sales. The car could have had Avalon sophistication and sold even better.
What I would say however, is the new Avalon is light years ahead of the Camry as far as presence and grace go. It's like they are cars from two different companies. There is no relation with front and rear styling or interior layout between the two. It appears the Avalon went forward into the future, while the Camry backdated itself.
So I'd say the worst thing about the new Avalon is it makes the Camry look like what it could have been. And I don't want to hear about leading Camry sales. The car could have had Avalon sophistication and sold even better.
Problem is the price - Avalon is $10k more than Camry. If they made Camry more sophisticated, it might actually sell worse due to higher price.
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Toyota knows what it is doing. The Camry is appropriate as its the volume family car and sells well and doesn't need to be too good where the consumer can't reasonably find a reason to buy a Lexus.
That is the exact problem Honda/Acura continues to have and it's at an all time low
Point with the new accord. After checking them out at sema I see no reason to buy an Acura and the ILX they had there looked ridiculous to the accord.
The Camry might be purposely "dumbed down" so there is no confusion when one steps in a Lexus booth. The Avalon has always been solid but never cannibalized Lexus ES etc sales. It is still no Lexus.
Comparing the Avalon to the Lacross while both look great the Avalon interior, features And hybrid blows the lacrosse away.
What's hilarious is the full size 200hp Avalon hybrid makes 40 MPG and that awful Acura ILX with a whopping 111hp makes around 37 MPG
That is the exact problem Honda/Acura continues to have and it's at an all time low
Point with the new accord. After checking them out at sema I see no reason to buy an Acura and the ILX they had there looked ridiculous to the accord.
The Camry might be purposely "dumbed down" so there is no confusion when one steps in a Lexus booth. The Avalon has always been solid but never cannibalized Lexus ES etc sales. It is still no Lexus.
Comparing the Avalon to the Lacross while both look great the Avalon interior, features And hybrid blows the lacrosse away.
What's hilarious is the full size 200hp Avalon hybrid makes 40 MPG and that awful Acura ILX with a whopping 111hp makes around 37 MPG