Saw them at SEMA.. Really well done.

Ignoring most of the commentary.

 

The ES nav displasy is right near where windshield meets the dash. The Avalon looks a bit lower. In fact the screen looks higher than the lowest part of the front windshield.

The Avalons screen is about the same height as the windshield wiper stalk.

 

Actually, I believe that the front end would look even better if they chromed the horizontal slats in the grill.

 

The Nav. screen is a LOT LOWER it's in the center of the dash....See photo below.

 

The nav in the 13 is at the same height as the nav in 2012 model

 

I don't like the front end, but I do like the Ford Fusion front end very much.

 

You might change your mind when you see it in person. I really liked the ES350 in media and pics, but when I saw it in person, I was a bit let down, it does look good but it looks a bit sharkish to me.

I can't wait to see the Avalon in person.

 

agreed.

seriously? i think it's a horrible profusion of surfaces, textures, colors, and shapes that ultimately equals fugly.



no doubt though it's a great, large, comfortable car to drive.

 

looks good though!

 

oof! i never noticed the wood "lip" or "chin" until i saw the pic you posted. i think the lighting in the pic is bad but it also looks MUCH better in beige/parchment

http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/wp-c...n-interior.jpg

with the separate lcd screens for climate control and the nav screen, i think it looks more "techy" which is to my taste.

and after looking at the 2012 Avalon, it does appear to be a "natural" progress of the interior design,

http://images.gtcarlot.com/pictures/58771460.jpg

where as the 2013 es350/300h just wiped the slate clean.

 

i hate to always bring opposite point, but I surely hope, and so do all 10 magazines that I have read Avalon reviews in, that all future Toyota interiors are built with same kind of "horrible profusion of surfaces, textures, colors, and shapes that ultimately equals fugly".

I have yet to read one sentence from any magazine about ugly Avalon and especially about cheap interior, in fact every single review was extremely positive about interior and quite few mentioned it is actually nicer than ES (and they all dissed previous Toyota interiors, so it is not like Toyota subscribed to good reviews in that regard).

It would be actually cool if you could find some time in next 2-3 weeks to go and check it out in real life and tell us how it felt in person, and much appreciated too (if you could find time). As this is the future of Toyota interiors, and similar things will be found in many future Toyota's, like Rav4 and others.

 

they might wanna be like audi, but they're not there.

the A7 is better executed and better proportioned with a longer hood

the cab-forward look of the avalon makes it look like a boat


however, the front angle can be good looking with the Jaws grille.... other than the white lipstick-

 

Ignoring all commentary from haters that don't even own Toyota or Lexus but keep posting as well others that haven't seen it in person but argue as if they have.

From the pictures and reviews,other than the front grill, this would be a car I would seriously look at if shopping for one at the moment.

PS: I notice that the Corolla style clock is still there though.

 

have to see this beastie in person, looks to be a cut above its category

 

Avalon might be too big for me, but if they made it smaller and call it next-gen Avensis, we in Europe would get it.