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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 10:13 PM
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Are we really drawing comparisons to the 5 series? Its like saying the ES 300h gets better gas mileage than the small 2 door, 2 seat CR-Z hybrid. Who cares.

I see what you did there
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 10:49 PM
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i hope Honda start working on the road noise issue. it wasn't a big deal until i realized all other cars i have driven has less road noise than Honda/Acura product i have driven. heck, my latest rental (KIA sportage or something) has less road noise than RDX if my memory service me right..
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2013 Honda Accord Review: Equal Parts Fun and Smart
September 10th, 2012 by Daniel P. Howley, LAPTOP Staff Writer
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It’s been 29 years since Honda’s 1st American-built Accord rolled off of the assembly line. Since then the iconic vehicle has won the hearts of drivers across the country thanks to its exceptional driving capabilities, styling and affordability. For its 30th year, Honda is pulling out all of the stops, giving the Accord lineup an all-new look, a cavalcade of new powertrain options and a plug-in hybrid edition. But the real star of the revamped Accord (starting at $21,680, $29,995 as tested) is its impressive array of new tech.

From its new HondaLink hands-free connectivity system to the inventive LaneWatch Blind Spot Display, the 2013 Accord is the closest thing you can get to a supercomputer on wheels. We packed our bags and headed to beautiful Santa Barbara, C.A. to try out the new Accord, and see if its 30th is its best yet.

Design
From a design standpoint, the 2013 Accord has a far more athletic look than the previous generation. You’ll definitely recognize it as an Accord when you first lay eyes on it, albeit 1 that’s seems to have been hitting the gym hard. Standard daytime running lights and a reworked grill give the 2013 Accord a more aggressive face, while a character line running upward from the front fender to the rear helps build on its muscular appearance.

HandsFreeLink
The Honda Accord’s new smartphone integration system, HandsFreeLink, allows users to connect their smartphones to the vehicle’s infotainment system via Bluetooth or USB. Once connected, users can access any music stored on their phones, as well as listen to text messages and make hands free calls using a steering wheel-mounted call button.


The Accord’s infotainment system has 1 of the most unique layouts on the market. Instead of giving users 1 large display from which they can control their music and navigation systems, Honda gives you 2. The 1st, a beautiful 8-inch 800 x 480 VGA screen dubbed the “intelligent” Multi-Information Display (i-MID) sits at the top of the center stack and is used solely to display information such as track listings, directions, phone numbers and system settings. Below the 8-inch display is a smaller 6-inch touchscreen used to control the Accord’s audio system.


Underneath the touchscreen sits a large rotary **** that allows users to navigate the i-MID’s various menus. Additional physical Nav, Phone, Info and Audio buttons situated just above the **** allow you to quickly switch from listening to your favorite artist to entering an address in the navigation system with a single button press.


In addition to Bluetooth streaming audio, the Accord offers streaming music via Pandora, as well as XMSirius Satellite Radio. Don’t have your smartphone on you? An available USB port allows you to connect any USB-enabled device to the infotainment system, letting you stream music and even upload photos for use as a background for the i-MID display. The USB port also lets iPhone users control all aspects of Pandora via the Accord’s touchscreen, including skipping, liking and disliking tracks. If you connect via Bluetooth, you’ll only be able to control the volume of your Pandora station, which is pretty lame.


Having 2 displays and a series of ***** and buttons to for the infotainment system, not to mention the physical controls for the HVAC system, can seem overwhelming the first time you get behind the driver’s seat of the Accord. But in actuality, Honda has made the center stack both ergonomically pleasing — nothing was out of reach — and intuitive to use. We did find ourselves having to stretch a bit to reach the controls while in the passenger seat, but it wasn’t bad enough to be a knock on the setup.

HondaLink with Aha
While smartphone connectivity and a gorgeous navigation system are all well and good, you need to bring something extra to the tablet to wow car shoppers. In the Accord’s case, that something is Honda’s new cloud-based HondaLink connectivity system. Whereas HandsFreeLink lets you just listen to music stored natively on your device and make hands-free phone calls, HondaLink takes advantage of your smartphone’s data connection to bring apps stored on your phone into your car.


Custom user settings are uploaded from your HondaLink app to the automaker’s HondaLink Data Cloud servers, letting you store information such as points of interest, routes and preferences for the Navigation system, among other settings. This allows each driver to have a more personalized experience than they would if their settings were saved natively.

The 1st app to get the HondaLink treatment is Harman’s Aha Radio. Available for iPhone and Android devices, the app helps you curate on-demand radio stations, audio books, podcasts, news and even stream audible Facebook and Twitter updates. We got to use the Aha app for HondaLink and were impressed with both the presentation and simplicity of the controls. Users navigate Aha using the Accord’s touchscreen.


Want to listen to a radio station in L.A., but you live in New York? No problem, just find the station on Aha and start rocking out. Hungry? Navigate to the Hungry station and start looking for restaurants via Yelp Location Services. Honda reps told us that the Yelp feature calculates your car’s direction and will only provide restaurant options located ahead of you, so you won’t have to turn around to find a place to eat.

The coolest part of Aha is the ability to listen to your Facebook and Twitter newsfeeds. Before you listen to either service, you’ll have to add them to your Favorite stations list in the Aha smartphone app and connect to HondaLink. Select Aha as your audio source on the Accord’s touchscreen, and the display will switch over to show you your Favorite stations. Tap the Facebook station and Aha will begin reading your newsfeed.


A brief description of each post will also be displayed on the Accord’s i-MID display, including how long ago it was posted. If a post contains a link, Aha will skip over it and simply say, “A link was posted.” HondaLink also lets you “Like” posts via the touchscreen, although you can’t yet post to your own newsfeed.

Safety
Honda has outfitted the 2013 Accord with variety of new safety features. Forward Collision Warning uses sensors located at the front of the Accord to detect other vehicles and uses your speed to determine if a collision is possible. If the system thinks an accident is imminent, it will automatically provide you with visual and audio warnings alerting you to stop.


Honda’s new Land Departure Warning system uses cameras mounted in the Accord’s rearview mirror to read lane markers as you drive down the road. When you cross over a marker without using your turn signal, the system will alert you with audible and visual prompts. We found found this feature to be more sensitive than the 1 we tried on the 2012 Mercedes Benz E350, which will certainly be welcome for safety minded drivers.

Like many cars on the market, the 2013 Honda Accord features a backup camera that automatically streams video to the 8-inch i-MID display when you put the car in reverse. If the standard view isn’t to your liking, the Accord allows you to switch between 2 other available angles, an overhead view and a wide-angle view.


The Accord’s most ingenious safety feature is its LaneWatch Blind Spot Display. Using a camera mounted under the Accord’s right side view mirror,the system automatically streams video to the i-MID display whenever you flip on the right turn signal. Honda says LaneWatch helps reduce the driver’s blind spot by providing an unobstructed view of the 2 adjacent lanes. Pressing the LaneWatch button on the turn signal stalk causes the camera to continuously stream video to the i-MID display.

The Ride


During our time in Santa Barbara, we drove both the automatic and manual versions of the Accord EX-L V6 Sedan and Accord EX-L V6 Coupe. As we drove past lush vineyards and picturesque mountain vistas, we were continually struck by how well the Accord handled both the sweeping curves of the Pacific Coast Highway and the sharp banked corners of the region’s back roads. Although the coupe was the clear leader, thanks to its sport-tuned suspension, the sedan proved it was no slouch.

The 278 hp V-6 packs a hefty 252 lb-ft of torque. Hit the accelerator and that power grips you tight and doesn’t let go until you slam into the red line. The 6-speed automatic transmission knew just when to hold shifts and when to kick down for a quick getaway. As we tooled around in the 6-speed manual coupe we cackled maniacally as we smashed the accelerator and dumped the clutch, blurring Santa Barbara’s undulating hillsides and sending rows of grapevines flying past the Accord’s windows.


Ride comfort in the sedan was top-notch. The driver’s seat hugged in all the right places. Wind noise, a problem in the previous generation Accord, was nearly undetectable. We did notice that the sedan tended roll over ruts and bumps in the road, though nowhere near enough to have you reaching for the Dramamine.

Pricing
1 of the Accord’s biggest selling points is just how much you get for it’s relatively low $21,680 starting price. All models from the base LX to the top-of-the-line Touring edition receive Honda’s HandsFreeLink connectivity system, USB/ iPod integration, a single-angle rearview camera, 8-inch 480 x 320 information display, Pandora integration and auto-reply text messaging functionality.

Step up to the$24,605 EX model and you’ll get all of the aforementioned features, as well as the inventive LaneWatch Blind Spot display. The $24,604 EX-L model comes with all of the previous features and adds the slick HondaLink interface, XM Radio, a multi-angle rearview camera and the Forward Collision Warning and Lane Departure Warning systems.

Moving up to the the $29,995 EX-L V6, the same models we drove, will get you access to the sleek Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation system. The addition of the navigation system also gives the Accord’s 8-inch display a resolution bump from 480 x 320 pixels to 800 x 480 pixels.

Rounding out the lineup is the top dog, Accord Touring edition. Priced at $33,430, the Accord Touring gets you all of the tech and safety features available in the EX-L V6 and Honda’s Adaptive Cruise Control.

Finish Line


It’s been 29 years since Honda first began building the Accord in the U.S., and its 30th year is looking just as good as the first. With its improved styling, aggressive V-6 engine and competent body control, the 2013 Accord both looks and feels like a car that should cost twice as much. Add to that more tech than most competing mid-sized cars and a host of compelling safety features and you have an exceptional vehicle that’s equal parts fun and smart.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 06:17 AM
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Since the reported numbers for the V6/6AT are so much better than for the old car and with hardly any difference in power, I'm guessing Honda has finally "uncorked" the car? I know the last generation Accord V6 automatic was hobbled by the fact that the automatic would shift way early at only 6000rpm when power peak was well beyond that and redline was up near 7000. It may have limited power a bit in 1st gear also. Sounds like that "issue" has been resolved here and now the car can finally perform like it should with the 3.5L engine.

Nice they finally have multiple drive modes (D and S), but boo and the continued lack of any manual controls. Actually they took them away - no more D3/2/1 notches on the shifter, so you can't even lock it down in 1st gear now, like if you're rolling down a slippery hill. Or to get some engine braking assist. Come on!

Otherwise I really like the car. Looks very impressive. I live right across the street from a Honda dealership so might have to swing by one day and take one for a spin. Been a looong time since my Honda Accord days.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
This is a traditional ricer argument. Who cares if a V-6 Accord is faster than a 528 BMW. Its a 5 series and it could be a 508, it would still > the Accord.

Have you even been inside the 5 series let alone driven it? Then you can easily chip the 5 series and modify it.

Are we really drawing comparisons to the 5 series? Its like saying the ES 300h gets better gas mileage than the small 2 door, 2 seat CR-Z hybrid. Who cares.
Reminds me of the advt where the Dodge Neon pitched itself against the BMW 3 series.....more fun, more space, more power, less money to pay.

Right!
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 09:14 AM
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Oh wow, it is a lot quicker then the 5-speeds car, 1 gear really does wonder.

Ok so I call that about dead even with a 528i, and that's a 4 bangers.......but you said it is faster then a 535i, do you really want me to find the #s on a 535i?

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Also faster in a straight line than a 6 cylinder 5 series.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
This is a traditional ricer argument. Who cares if a V-6 Accord is faster than a 528 BMW. Its a 5 series and it could be a 508, it would still > the Accord.

Have you even been inside the 5 series let alone driven it? Then you can easily chip the 5 series and modify it.

Are we really drawing comparisons to the 5 series? Its like saying the ES 300h gets better gas mileage than the small 2 door, 2 seat CR-Z hybrid. Who cares.
Well we were solely just talking about straight line performance, which 5 and 7 series with the smallest engine is traditionally the ricer's choice to make fun of since they "were" dog slow, not anymore.

Does the ES300h really get better MPG then the CR-Z? Wow the CR-Z sucks............low MPG and gutless, is it made to compete with the Smart Fortwo for the crappiest car you can buy award?
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 10:34 AM
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I like the emergency/parking brake location. That is where I want it to be. Not like Chrysler Town & Country Mini Van parking brake like we have in Toyota and Lexus.
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I like the emergency/parking brake location. That is where I want it to be. Not like Chrysler Town & Country Mini Van parking brake like we have in Toyota and Lexus.
You are a drifter?
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Originally Posted by BNR34
Oh wow, it is a lot quicker then the 5-speeds car, 1 gear really does wonder.

Ok so I call that about dead even with a 528i, and that's a 4 bangers.......but you said it is faster then a 535i, do you really want me to find the #s on a 535i?

here's edmund's 535i test

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...automatic.html

note 1/4 mile.

ok. not faster. but hangs on tight in all the tests.


anyway, exterior looks good for a budget family car.

you can even slap on a spindle grille and almost have it pass as a lexus gs
I'm not sure if I want to think it means the accord looks upmarket, or the lexus looks downmarket.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pman6
here's edmund's 535i test

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...automatic.html

note 1/4 mile.

ok. not faster. but hangs on tight in all the tests.


anyway, exterior looks good for a budget family car.

you can even slap on a spindle grille and almost have it pass as a lexus gs
I'm not sure if I want to think it means the accord looks upmarket, or the lexus looks downmarket.
it looks like they copied GS design in front, thats how it looks like... and Hyundai at the back.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pman6
here's edmund's 535i test

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...automatic.html

note 1/4 mile.

ok. not faster. but hangs on tight in all the tests.
Umm, interesting, the 535i is slower then I thought, I thought it is faster because the 335i is way faster. And the 528i is way faster then I imagined.

Originally Posted by pman6
anyway, exterior looks good for a budget family car.

you can even slap on a spindle grille and almost have it pass as a lexus gs
I'm not sure if I want to think it means the accord looks upmarket, or the lexus looks downmarket.
Yes this new Accord does looks upmarket and the 4GS definitely looks downmarket, which is why they "look" similar. On the exterior only though, the interior of the 4GS is really nice.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 05:04 PM
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Is this the new IS

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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pman6
here's edmund's 535i test

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...automatic.html

note 1/4 mile.

ok. not faster. but hangs on tight in all the tests.


anyway, exterior looks good for a budget family car.

you can even slap on a spindle grille and almost have it pass as a lexus gs
I'm not sure if I want to think it means the accord looks upmarket, or the lexus looks downmarket.
Sure, if you are blind and have no sense of proportions. The huge typical Honda overhang is at odds with the RWD GS.

The GS looks like a proper luxury sport sedan so stop trolling. It sure doesn't look downmarket. What you need to be worried about is the bland rlx which looks just like this accord.

Thread fail.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
it looks like they copied GS design in front, thats how it looks like... and Hyundai at the back.
My sarcasm-sensor is broken. Can you confirm whether you're serious?


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