Toyota's unstoppable Land Cruiser turns 60
02-04-11, 04:34 AM
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The current LC to the old one is what regular LR is to LR Defender, what Grand Cherokee is to Wrangler Rubicon, what MB ML is to Gelandewagen, etc.
Its oriented far more towards luxury than offroading prowess. It doesn't have locking axles to the best of my knowledge, its riding on soft, quiet tires, its body panels are not easy to replace. Its just another luxury SUV with some offroad capability, but nothing to write home about. Its not true to its roots at all.
Its oriented far more towards luxury than offroading prowess. It doesn't have locking axles to the best of my knowledge, its riding on soft, quiet tires, its body panels are not easy to replace. Its just another luxury SUV with some offroad capability, but nothing to write home about. Its not true to its roots at all.
Just because the current model has a locking center diff doesn't mean much, that's a necessity in order to call a vehicle "4 wheel drive", if they didn't have a locking center diff, the best they could say is AWD. Locking axle diffs are what really count, and the last model that had those was the 80 series in thiscountry.
Crawl control wouldn't be necessary if they offered a manual transmission, its just a band aid to make up for the inherent weakness of an automatic transmission off road.
It does work well I'll give it that, but a manual trans would be much nicer.
Last edited by 19psi; 02-04-11 at 01:14 PM.
02-04-11, 05:52 AM
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^^^ Everything you said, plus the old one sat higher, and probably didn't even have sway bars, so there was nothing to disconnect 
I'm not really trying to take anything away from the current LC - in its class its probably the best vehicle along with its Lexus sibling, but compared to the old LC, its a sissy
I'm not really trying to take anything away from the current LC - in its class its probably the best vehicle along with its Lexus sibling, but compared to the old LC, its a sissy
02-04-11, 06:24 AM
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I bet the old LC wouldn't need the commie UAZ to come to its rescue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=collSEcc79Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=collSEcc79Y
02-04-11, 01:17 PM
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Yeah I think that was the most optimal blending of luxury and off road capability. I'd definitely drive an 80 series. They still had a lever operated transfer case, locking front and rear differentials, solid axles front and rear, but a remarkably nice comfortable interior.
02-11-11, 06:28 AM
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I actually dont think the styling of the 200 is that much different than the 100. A few more curves, but from the front-end, the 200 looks great. I will agree, the 80 is probably the best looking of the bunch (other than the 40 series), but the new generation of car buyers, coupled with new safety standards likely won't permit those types of designs anymore (unfortunately).
02-14-11, 12:34 AM
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With a manual you have more things to worry about don't you? If you got stuck in sand, would you be able to get out with a manual? There are demonstration videos for Crawl control showing an LC200 stuck in sand getting out on its own without help.
.The "old" LC and the LC200 serve two different markets. How about we stop comparing them? It's pointless to make this comparison.
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