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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 08:44 AM
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NAGOYA, Japan -- Toyota is pushing a new global theme of "progressive luxury" for its Lexus brand, including a greater focus on hybrids, advanced telematics and sporty packages.

The new strategy also calls for bolder design and may include entering new market segments.

It is all part of a plan to unify Lexus' image around the world, said Karl Schlicht, general manager in charge of global Lexus marketing and product planning.

"There was a need to make sure we were all on the same page,"
said Schlicht, a 50-year-old Canadian who has been in the job since January 2009.

Lexus got its start in the United States 2 decades ago and has been the top-selling luxury brand in this country for 10 years.

"It's very simple when you have 1 market," said Schlicht, who was interviewed last week at Toyota Motor Corp.'s offices in Nagoya. "You have multiple regions now -- like Europe wanting 1 direction, Japan another and China coming on. That gets more complicated."

He said the aim of progressive luxury is to strengthen an identity of smart luxury -- where social responsibility and green credentials count as much as, if not more than, raw engine power and conspicuous consumption.

The Lexus CT 200h hybrid, which went on sale this year, is the 1st result of the new push into progressive luxury, said Schlicht. Fine-tuning the car's suspension to provide a sporty ride -- despite mustering only 134 hp -- underscores the priorities.

He said progressive luxury will be spelled out in future models through:

-- More expressive, daring designs.

-- Aggressive application of hybrid technology.

-- Advanced use of onboard telematics.

-- Expanded use of F and F Sports packages, following the IS-F and IS-F Sports performance variations. For starters, the sporty packages will be added to the CT and RX ranges.

The F packages deliver a specially tuned or completely different engine, transforming the base model into a "real sports car in every sense of the word," said Schlicht. The F Sports trim is a lower-rung option offering the standard engine with sporty tuning of the suspension.

Lexus also is exploring new niches after tapping the entry-level luxury segment with the CT.

A top priority is a coupe to fill the void left by the discontinued SC, Schlicht said. Other possibilities include new SUV variants. But going smaller than the CT is unlikely, he said.

"There are new segments developing as we speak, segments within segments," said Schlicht, who joined Toyota in 1986. "I think there's lots of potential future markets."

Meanwhile, Schlicht said Lexus probably will keep its crown as the top-selling luxury car maker in the United States this year for the 11th straight year. But he wants to wind down as soon as possible the aggressive incentives that helped deliver those results.

Lexus sales climbed 8% to 201,769 vehicles through November, putting it on pace to best BMW in car sales. But to get there, Lexus had to pile on incentives after the brand was stung by multiple recalls, covering a wide variety of items that included floor mats, brake cylinders, valve springs and vehicle stability controls.

"The impact is huge on our dealers," Schlicht said. "They did an incredible job to sell what they did."

He defended the incentives as necessary and having minimal impact on residual values.

"We don't think we've gone over the top," Schlicht said. "If we saw any damage to our brand, our company is mature enough not to chase No. 1 just for the sake of No. 1."

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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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Just keep showing me the product, incentives are cool too.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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A top priority is a coupe to fill the void left by the discontinued SC, Schlicht said.
Most important part of the article.

Yes COUPES COUPES COUPES!
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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After reading the OP, almost everything mentioned-pointed me to the direction of BMW. So is Lexus going to turn into BMW?
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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Lol, RX Fsport. I want to see what that looks like.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by G Star
After reading the OP, almost everything mentioned-pointed me to the direction of BMW. So is Lexus going to turn into BMW?
I would disagree that new BMW models have "daring" designs. BMW also is really behind in hybrid technology.

So no, I wouldn't say at all they're trying to be like BMW. That's what Acura and Infiniti are going for .

Lexus will continue to have very comfortable and luxurious vehicles for the traditional Lexus customer, while at the same time expanding their customer base with the F lineup of sporty enthusiast vehicles.

All BMWs are known for sport, whether or not they are M models.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 10:37 PM
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if a RX fsport is a offroad package, yea~ BUT... whos gonna take it offroad?

CT fsport? umm with 134hp hybrid motor? oxymoron?
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by llamaboiz
if a RX fsport is a offroad package, yea~ BUT... whos gonna take it offroad?

CT fsport? umm with 134hp hybrid motor? oxymoron?
F Sport is all about sport enhancements, mainly suspension and exterior aesthetics. Oxymoron? No. VIP setup on a FR sports platform, Yes.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 11:22 PM
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Lets see a lexus FT-86!
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 01:32 AM
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^^ I agree, at least 1 entry level nonconvertible hardtop coupe!
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"A top priority is a coupe to fill the void left by the discontinued SC, Schlicht said."

About freaky time!! I'll be patiently waiting.
On another note 134hp! How he** your sporty when you can't even outrun a Yaris or Civic. The guy does sound a little arrogant in the article.

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They need a new SC! I'd be happy if they rebadged a 2000 SC400 as the 2012 SC500 or something. The IS-C isn't enough and the LF-A costs too much.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by GiantsFan
Lets see a lexus FT-86!
Originally Posted by jadu
^^ I agree, at least 1 entry level nonconvertible hardtop coupe!


That right there.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 11:35 PM
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these slogans make me cringe.

First, acura adopted "Smart Luxury" (but we know they're not really luxury anymore)

now, lexus adopts "Progressive Luxury".

all the other lux carmakers don't have such a slogan.
People know they're luxury; they don't need to remind people.

Make the car not look like a toyota, and let the cars sell themselves.
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by dunnojack
these slogans make me cringe.

First, acura adopted "Smart Luxury" (but we know they're not really luxury anymore)

now, lexus adopts "Progressive Luxury".

all the other lux carmakers don't have such a slogan.
People know they're luxury; they don't need to remind people.

Make the car not look like a toyota, and let the cars sell themselves.
First don't compare what Acura says and what Lexus says. Acura says things like "we will battle Bentley", "we will be Tier 1", "we are smart luxury", "the market is moving toward us" and other clueless statements or things that never come to light.

In contrast Lexus does not speak as often and lets the products and results do the talking.

How do we know what slogans others have? Have they been interviewed as well? BMW has "Joy and independent", Benz and Audi also have stated their intentions for the future. Please get off the jump to conclusions mat.

I honestly don't have a problem with Lexus design outside the HS, LX, GX. I don't want daring and different b/c people that don't buy the cars say "Oh Lexus looks boring and like Toyota".
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