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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 03:30 PM
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its just the trickle down process will take a while. Not even the GS 3.5 has it, nor the LX or GX which theoretically should get it before the IS (however, I dont know how it might impact off roading in those vehicles).

The IS is on the bottom of the totem pole, it will (and should) get it last. That being said, Lexus should have 7 speeds out already for the rest of the line.
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RXSF
its just the trickle down process will take a while. Not even the GS 3.5 has it, nor the LX or GX which theoretically should get it before the IS (however, I dont know how it might impact off roading in those vehicles).

The IS is on the bottom of the totem pole, it will (and should) get it last. That being said, Lexus should have 7 speeds out already for the rest of the line.
It has less to do with being on the bottom of the totem pole in a product line-up. But it has more to do with when a car is redesigned. The IS was one of the first Lexi to get manumatic shifting (e-shift on 1IS) and then push button start (2IS). Typically when a model is totally redone is when they throw in all their latest mechanicals. You don't get such enhancements with facelifts. And that's all we've gotten with the IS since 2006... facelifts.
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
It has less to do with being on the bottom of the totem pole in a product line-up. But it has more to do with when a car is redesigned. The IS was one of the first Lexi to get manumatic shifting (e-shift on 1IS) and then push button start (2IS). Typically when a model is totally redone is when they throw in all their latest mechanicals. You don't get such enhancements with facelifts. And that's all we've gotten with the IS since 2006... facelifts.
Well the LS400, LS430, SC430 and the current Camry all received transmission upgrades in their mid-cycle facelifts, so there's no good reason why the facelifted 2011 IS couldn't have got one too.
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 02:07 PM
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BMW already puts the 8-speed in the X3 (across the entire range, including even the 2.0 diesel) and soon the 3-series, so why should the IS stay put?
i thought BMW fans were telling us how 8 speeds are just overkill and not needed? .
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
i thought BMW fans were telling us how 8 speeds are just overkill and not needed? .
None that have actually owned or driven BMW's extensively.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 11:22 AM
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2011 IS F Motortrend Review. Seems that the changes to the suspension has paid off.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ive/index.html


You'll have to look very closely to see the on-the-surface differences made to the refreshed 2011 Lexus IS F, which is slated to make its world debut at this month's 2010 Paris auto show. In fact the only revision to the IS F's exterior are newly fitted LED driving lights, supposedly added to make the Lexus easier to spot at high speeds (and not to follow the Audi-led trend).

Working within a tight budget, chief engineer Yukihiko Yaguchi tells us that he was basically happy with the car's exterior styling and that he placed far more importance on "taking the IS F to the next level in handling and ride quality." Good idea, because the IS F was certainly in need of some next level work in that area.

With its throaty exhaust note, the IS F is a beast, packing a 416 horsepower, 5.0-liter V-8 mated to an 8-speed, flappy-paddle gearbox. But pushed hard, the car's chassis would become unsettled, especially at the rear end.

That is not the case with the 2011 revision, which squats nicely in the corners and hangs on like an angry pit bull. Behind the wheel of a pre-production Australian-spec model at Fuji Speedway recently, we were more than impressed at the improvements that Yaguchi and his team have made to the car's high-speed cornering stability.

Although the powertrain and the car's 3800-lb curb weight remain the same, the suspension settings have been totally recalibrated. The combination of spring rate revisions and dampers, fitted with new high performance valves in addition to reinforced suspension member connectors and bushes, permit more front-end suspension stroke yet firm up the rear end. This generates greater traction and stability at high speeds. An unexpected byproduct of this revision is the car's more compliant ride, which Yaguchi says "was a bonus but something we aimed for." Adjustments to the steering power-assist mechanism made for more precise and accurate turn-in as well as greater feedback through the wheel.

The results are that the 2011 IS F can now be pushed even harder into corners; it stays more composed under heavy braking, at turn-in, and while experiencing changes of road camber and elevation. The IS F also exhibits less understeer and more rear wheel grip and stability. In fact, the rear end is now so tied down that a slight enhancement of front-end downforce might generate even greater all-round traction and stability. The new model laps the 2.8-mile Fuji Speedway in 2 minutes, 3.4 seconds -- nearly two seconds faster than its predecessor -- thanks to Yaguchi's subtle, yet substantial, modifications.

To elevate the driving experience even further, Yaguchi completely rethought the instrumentation layout and borrowed design hints from well-known sports cars like Porsche and Ferrari. As a result, the IS F now features a large, centrally located tachometer which spins to a 6800-rpm redline, along with a newly added gear selector and speed gauge. To the right of the tach is a smaller analog speedometer, which Yaguchi says is "...a novelty, just there to show potential buyers that the car is capable of 300 kmh (186 mph)."

Another idea borrowed from Europe's hottest sports cars (ahem, BMW) is the newly fitted shift indicator situated inside the top half of the tachometer. While accelerating hard and concentrating on nailing the right lines around a track, a row of lights illuminate within your lower peripheral vision and make it far easier to sense on-the-limit engine revs than in the outgoing model. This new system lights one orange LED at 5000 rpm, another at 5500 rpm and a "shift now" red light at 6500 rpm. "And don't worry, we did not fit automatic up-shifts. The driver has to change gears, even bouncing off the redline," stresses Yaguchi.

Yet another strategic addition (that you won't find on export models, unfortunately) is the 'circuit mode,' a la the Nissan GT-R. It may not mean anything to you, but it does illustrate just how much effort Yaguchi and Co. have put into the revised IS F. Now fitted with a hi-tech GPS sat-nav device programmed with Japan's 14 registered race tracks, the IS F will automatically disengage its 180 kmh (112 mph) speed limiter (all Japanese domestic cars come equipped with such a speed limiter) when the vehicle enters a race track. After the track session, and only if the driver so desires, the system will send the vehicle's lap times to a central dealer database accessible by all IS F owners, thus setting up a platform for bragging rights to best laps. Neat trick...

So, when will we see this bright-eyed, better-handling IS F? We'll likely know more during the Paris show press days (Sept. 30-Oct. 1), but we expect to see the revised model here soon. After all, Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda, an ardent racing fan who has piloted a Lexus LFA in the 24-hours of Nurburgring, says he wants to add more "fun" to his cars. And where better to start than with one of the company's highest performing vehicles?
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 11:31 AM
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"The new model laps the 2.8-mile Fuji Speedway in 2 minutes, 3.4 seconds -- nearly two seconds faster than its predecessor -- thanks to Yaguchi's subtle, yet substantial, modifications."

Very nice. I assume/hope that the "predecessor" is referring to the 2010 model, which was already said to be 2 seconds faster than the 2008 model around Fuji Speedway.

Hopefully a new track test with the M3 is coming soon.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by LexusMan77
2011 IS F Motortrend Review. Seems that the changes to the suspension has paid off.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ive/index.html
Yep, read that and like the fact it rides better on the street now with new suspension tweaks
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by rdgdawg
Yep, read that and like the fact it rides better on the street now with new suspension tweaks
This is all good news and progress on a budget, nicely done by Lex.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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fixed the link

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ive/index.html
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 02:00 PM
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This part was cool.

Yet another strategic addition (that you won't find on export models, unfortunately) is the 'circuit mode,' a la the Nissan GT-R. It may not mean anything to you, but it does illustrate just how much effort Yaguchi and Co. have put into the revised IS F. Now fitted with a hi-tech GPS sat-nav device programmed with Japan's 14 registered race tracks, the IS F will automatically disengage its 180 kmh (112 mph) speed limiter (all Japanese domestic cars come equipped with such a speed limiter) when the vehicle enters a race track. After the track session, and only if the driver so desires, the system will send the vehicle's lap times to a central dealer database accessible by all IS F owners, thus setting up a platform for bragging rights to best laps. Neat trick...

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz0zjE9Mm8k
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 02:24 PM
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I want a IS-F. I also want a lot of other things. I think 2011 looks a lot more attractive.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by STIG
I want a IS-F. I also want a lot of other things. I think 2011 looks a lot more attractive.
Wanting is good, keeps us motivated.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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I dont even mind the ricey body any more...
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by STIG
I want a IS-F. I also want a lot of other things....
Originally Posted by IS-SV
Wanting is good, keeps us motivated.
I believe these will be on my tombstone
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