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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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One area the budget-priced Genesis Coupe doesn't match the BMW is in overall fit/finish and build quality. Don't get me wrong, a nice car, but the overall heft of everything, from the doors to the door pulls, is obviously not in BMW-territory. There's a reason why a 328i costs so much more, and it's not just becuase it is from Germany.
bmw is more expensive just because......

yep. no good reason.

have you seen the cheap plastics in the 3 series? they chip and scratch, and lose their paint. Just check the bimmer forums. Even the steering wheel leather or whatever it is, peels.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dunnojack
bmw is more expensive just because......

yep. no good reason.

have you seen the cheap plastics in the 3 series? they chip and scratch, and lose their paint. Just check the bimmer forums. Even the steering wheel leather or whatever it is, peels.
That's because its made to be recycled.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dunnojack
bmw is more expensive just because......

yep. no good reason.

have you seen the cheap plastics in the 3 series? they chip and scratch, and lose their paint. Just check the bimmer forums. Even the steering wheel leather or whatever it is, peels.
I felt the same way after test driving the 335 back in the day. The dash plastics look like they were taken from a mustang. The cheap interior and the dwarfed size of the car drove me to the larger Lexus GS350. The 3 series seems more like a coupe that they turned into a sedan. The sedan is sooooo small
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Och
Care to elaborate a bit on this statement?
No need to respond YEH. I got you covered

Originally Posted by YEH
Oh, please - take another look at the roofline-C-pillar and rear of the LS430 w/ the W140 gen S Class - very similar.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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No need to respond YEH. I got you covered

LMFAO, thanks
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 04:29 AM
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by YEH
I'm well aware of all that (so Hyundai invested $550 billion for the Genesis, while not the LS investment, not bad for something not in the flagship class).

Nonetheless, the Celsior wasn't even the flagship of Toyota's fleet. Not only did the Century outclass it, but the Crown Majesta was rated (class-wise) above the Celsior.
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I really doubt Hyundai invested half a trillion dollars on the Genesis. No company in the whole entire world has even had revenues that high. In 2008 Royal Dutch Shell had gross revenues of $458 billion and that was the highest revenue for any company in the whole entire world.
I agree, Hyundai motor's total asset for 2008 is only a little over 100 million dollar. I dont see how they can invest 5000 times their asset into the Genesis.
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 08:59 AM
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I am sure Yeh meant $550 million.
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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Jury is still out on this one.

Initial quality doesn't mean much to me personally. Anyone car make a car look good, but can it sustain?

Lexus has won due to its stellar reputation for decades now. Hyundai has yet to prove that.
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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I agree, there have been a lot of car which had a successful launch and fail later on, I am not saying the Genesis will fail, but lets just wait and see before we declear Hyundai the new Lexus.
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