Can you guess?
I already read your whole first post. it's a game.
you're not giving them any leverage at all. They're not gonna jack up the price just because you say you're gonna buy. Words don't mean shtt in america.
this is how the game would go down:
me: yeah i'll commit.
audi: ok. we can sell it for $5000 over invoice.
me: ok. you are the weakest link. goodbye.
you're not giving them any leverage at all. They're not gonna jack up the price just because you say you're gonna buy. Words don't mean shtt in america.
this is how the game would go down:
me: yeah i'll commit.
audi: ok. we can sell it for $5000 over invoice.
me: ok. you are the weakest link. goodbye.
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Not surprised at all... look how they tried to "back fill" my S5 they never secured and then couldn't get the one I wanted... yet they hit my credit card for the down payment... that's why Audi is permanently off my list!!!
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Has anybody ever walked into a dealership and asked the first salesman they see for the internet sales manager? It's hilarious how they act because you're wasting their time. I've had salesman literally, turn, and walk away without saying a word!
Although the OP's situation sounds somewhat unreasonable, it is possible that, maybe, just maybe, there was a slight misinterpretation or misunderstanding? Negotiations can be very confusing, sometimes. They're designed to be that way. Although, he could have just had a bad experience at a particular Audi dealership.
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Damn--I should have said Audi.
I had an Audi dealer treat me that way for an A4 back in 2000. All he would do would quote me monthly payment amounts--he wouldn't give me a price. this was after I had to wait almost an hour to get an Audi salesman (a VW salesman took me on the test drive, and didn't know a lick about the A4).
I had an Audi dealer treat me that way for an A4 back in 2000. All he would do would quote me monthly payment amounts--he wouldn't give me a price. this was after I had to wait almost an hour to get an Audi salesman (a VW salesman took me on the test drive, and didn't know a lick about the A4).
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there's nothing wrong with asking you to be committed to buying that model.
basically they're asking, if the price is right, will you take home the Q5.
lots of dealers do this.
They don't want to waste time on you if you're just gonna get up and buy an RX instead.
even if you aren't committed, you can lie and say you are. then walk away at the last minute. you haven't signed any papers....
play the game.
basically they're asking, if the price is right, will you take home the Q5.
lots of dealers do this.
They don't want to waste time on you if you're just gonna get up and buy an RX instead.
even if you aren't committed, you can lie and say you are. then walk away at the last minute. you haven't signed any papers....
play the game.
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It is a game. A buyer is commited for the right price. But it's INSULTING for the dealer to approach a potential customer in this way. "Committed"? Does the guy just go from dealer to dealer looking at cars with no intention to buy, just to waste everyone's time? It's a moronic way to treat a customer.
True story:
I was at a dealership for a test drive of a new model over the weekend. This is a higher end foriegn car dealership. After the drive we sat down to discuss the price or so I thought. After going over the options I wanted, I was told by the salesman that he needed to go over it with his sales manager.
5 minutes later he came back and started to write down some more information.
10 minutes later he comes back with someone (his sales manager I learned) and the manager basically tells me that since I am not commited to the car they are not going to provide a price. I had been sitting for a good 15 minutes at this point. I left a little perplexed, but went to see other dealerships
Subsequent communcations basically said that I should commit to the car before knowing the price (i.e. commit to our product before knowing how much it's going to cost you). Weird right?
Anyways, can you guess what brand I am talking about?
I was at a dealership for a test drive of a new model over the weekend. This is a higher end foriegn car dealership. After the drive we sat down to discuss the price or so I thought. After going over the options I wanted, I was told by the salesman that he needed to go over it with his sales manager.
5 minutes later he came back and started to write down some more information.
10 minutes later he comes back with someone (his sales manager I learned) and the manager basically tells me that since I am not commited to the car they are not going to provide a price. I had been sitting for a good 15 minutes at this point. I left a little perplexed, but went to see other dealerships
Subsequent communcations basically said that I should commit to the car before knowing the price (i.e. commit to our product before knowing how much it's going to cost you). Weird right?
Anyways, can you guess what brand I am talking about?
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It is a game. A buyer is commited for the right price. But it's INSULTING for the dealer to approach a potential customer in this way. "Committed"? Does the guy just go from dealer to dealer looking at cars with no intention to buy, just to waste everyone's time? It's a moronic way to treat a customer.
actually, some people do, just to test drive the cars.
the new Z just came out. I'm gonna go over there and jerk that car around as long as I can.
same with the hyundai coupe. gonna jerk that around too.
I AM wasting the salesman's time, because I have no intention of buying.
you got me man. how'd you know? I own a merc, bmw, bugatti, lambo, and ferrari dealership.
really though, you spent/wasted THIRTY minutes going through the motions. And then you're gonna throw all that time away by not playing the game?
Just pretend you're committed so that they can give you a damn price already. Or if he doesn't want to give you a price, you should take the lead and start negotiations.
Last edited by dunnojack; Apr 9, 2009 at 10:20 AM.
actually, some people do, just to test drive the cars.
the new Z just came out. I'm gonna go over there and jerk that car around as long as I can.
same with the hyundai coupe. gonna jerk that around too.
I AM wasting the salesman's time, because I have no intention of buying.
the new Z just came out. I'm gonna go over there and jerk that car around as long as I can.
same with the hyundai coupe. gonna jerk that around too.
I AM wasting the salesman's time, because I have no intention of buying.
Sure I'll play the game:
Dealer: If the price is right, will you take home the S5?
Me: Sure, I'll take the S5 home with $30k out the door...
Dealer: ...
See what I am saying?
By the way, I go to dealers to just test drive but I let them know in advance that I am JUST LOOKING today and want a test drive, if they say no I'll understand. They are out to make money after all...