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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 12:40 PM
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Top picks
Best models of the year in 10 categories

Of the more than 300 vehicles we've recently tested, our Top Picks are the best all-around choices in their categories. This year's list includes two new models: The Toyota Highlander is our new pick for midsized SUVs, unseating the Hyundai Santa Fe. And thanks to improved reliability, the Chevrolet Avalanche replaced the Chevrolet Silverado as our choice for pickups. See full Ratings, reliability and data on all Top Picks in our model overviews.
How we choose

Top Picks must meet our criteria in three areas:
Road tests

Vehicles must rank at or near the top of their categories in our overall road-test score, which includes more than 50 individual tests and evaluations.
Reliability

Each must have an average or better predicted-reliability Rating, which is based on the problems Consumer Reports subscribers reported for more than 1.4 million vehicles in our latest Annual Auto Survey.
Safety

Top Picks must perform adequately in overall safety if tested by the government or the insurance industry. (For some models, we do not have enough crash-test data to assign an overall safety Rating.) In addition, each must offer electronic stability control (ESC), a proven lifesaving safety feature, as standard equipment or as a readily available option.
Pickup truck. Chevrolet Avalanche

Fun to drive. Mazda Miata

Small SUV. Toyota RAV4

Small sedan. Hyundai Elantra SE

Green car. Toyota Prius

Minivan. Toyota Sienna

Upscale sedan. Infiniti G37

Midsize SUV. Toyota Highlander

Family sedan. Honda Accord

Best overall vehicle. Lexus LS 460
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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Nice showing by Toyota and the LS
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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5 out of 10 from Toyota/Lexus.

Kudos to them.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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Seems like an accurate pic based on popularity and reliability.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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No surprises here.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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Wow at least one American car got on there.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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No surprises here.
I think the main reason they picked the Chevy Avalance as the best truck is their fascination with that removable panel behind the seats that turns it into an open-bed all the way forward/back. It's a neat device for versatility, but cuts into body solidness some, even though it is, like most large trucks, a body-on-frame vehicle.
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It's hard to argue with the LS460 pick as best overall vehicle. Though it is too complex, electronically, for my tastes, and has too many systems on the dash to monitor, I don't think I've ever driven a better combination of handling, ride, refinement, comfort, power, reliability and superb noise isolation. The only thing the LS series lacked, up to recently, was AWD traction, and that has now been addressed on new models.

The Mercedes S550 probably equals it from an engineering/comfort standpoint, but, of course, lacks the LS460's reliability.

The Acura RL has superb build quality/solidness, a rich interior, AWD traction, and a reasonable amount of power (it is another one of my favorite luxury cars), but it can't quite equal the LS460's refinement.

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Except for the Miata and G37, it's a snooze fest.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by madmax2k1
Except for the Miata and G37, it's a snooze fest.

CR is not in the buisness of testing exotic or racing cars. Vehicles are judged on CR's idea of overall vehicle competence, reliability, crash tests, and appeal to the average car buyer. I happen to agree with much of their philosophy myself (not all of it).
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I tend to use CR reports for reliability data only, it's some of the best in the business. I do look at their performance data sometimes. And they can really help you select a cool LCD TV.

There are better sources for performance and safety information.
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The only one I have to argue with is the small sedan category, I would pick Mazda 3 or Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla over Hyundai Elantra.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
CR is not in the buisness of testing exotic or racing cars. Vehicles are judged on CR's idea of overall vehicle competence, reliability, crash tests, and appeal to the average car buyer. I happen to agree with much of their philosophy myself (not all of it).
Keep in mind, the big difference from CR and the magazines is that they actually purchase their cars from the dealer. The cars are not given to then a demo or tester models.
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
I tend to use CR reports for reliability data only, it's some of the best in the business. I do look at their performance data sometimes. And they can really help you select a cool LCD TV.

There are better sources for performance and safety information.
I agree. I also use CR primarily for reliability info, but a lot of their other data is interesting, too.
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by TwiBlueG35
The only one I have to argue with is the small sedan category, I would pick Mazda 3 or Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla over Hyundai Elantra.
I don't know, that's a tough one. The Elantra is a very nice economical sedan. Not as sporty as the Civic, yet, surely not as "phrumpy" as the Corolla.
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