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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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Chris I think you got unlucky or something. I have friends with the same 7th gen civics (coupes) and they drive and feel like new. No panels are falling apart and the headliner is certainly still attached

Rarely do I see a case of a newer honda having its panels fall off. The only time we had a honda not holding up as well is when our hondas are almost 15 years old. Then again, our Toyotas fall apart too
I should correct myself and say that it's the cloth that is glued to the door panels, not the panels itself-sorry.
Yeah, must've been a bad batch....I saw at least 5 other civics with the rear headliners hanging down.

But the biggest let down is the driver's door.
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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Don't laugh but I like this thing thus far....retro and nice and square, all Vans look the same (outside the Quest)


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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 12:33 PM
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^ Is that a FORD?
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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Yup. It's the Ford flex and it's replacing the Ford Freestar.
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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ehhh. I'm sticking with japanese cars. More reliable and dependable. .
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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IMO the Honduh Oddsissy is a carbon copy of the Sienna in the exterior looks department. I drove the 08 and while it IS an improvement over the 07 m/y it's still not as nice as the Sienna XLE.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 10:04 AM
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My mom has an '05 Honda Odyssey with over 50k miles on it and she has never had any problems what-so-ever. I've driven it before and it is a nice ride, with pretty good pick-up for a minivan. We've taken it to Key West, Orlando, Tampa, and God knows where else in Florida and it's been a comfy ride all the way each time, plus it has alot of interior space ... I'm only 20, unmarried and no kids, so I'm not thinking of getting a van anytime soon, but when the time comes, I'll be checking out the Hondas first ...
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by flyfl1pguy
THe Alphard looks almost the same as the Elgrand. .
That's one of the ugliest vehicles I've ever seen.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
That's one of the ugliest vehicles I've ever seen.
Lol those headlights are almost as big as the windows, and they look bigger than the wheels and tires
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Stormwind
When it comes to vans this is the top dog to get. I never thought the R Class was all that until I rode in one, let me tell you I was impressed. The car is very spacious even in the 3rd row seat I would say it has a little more leg room than a S class and most of all it drives like a Benz and not like a mini van.

I am also in the market for a people hauler and this is the one I am setting my mind on.

I have to agree with you. My uncle in New Jersey has an R500 with the AMG appearance package and after riding in it several times I came away very impressed with the ride quality and unbelievably huge interior space. The cabin was also well isolated from the outside world meaning it was quiet. In terms of comfort I would give it an 11/10: it's that good.

I'm not a fan of the styling, but with the AMG appearance package it looks pretty stunning. The ride comfort is amazing. Probably right up there with an S class.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCalSC4
We have an R-class at the office, but the interior space absolutely pales
compared with the Odyssey. I can barely load six boxed wheels in the R-Class
whereas the Odyssey will swallow twelve with the center seats out.
Maybe you should read the instruction manual.

You can create extra space inside an R class by folding and compacting the the rear seats. I can even do this in my C class.

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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TruPlaya26
Lol those headlights are almost as big as the windows, and they look bigger than the wheels and tires
Got a chuckle that the front license plate is chopped out - as if someone would steal that monstrosity, or maybe the owner doesn't want anyone to find out they own it.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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R class would be nice, but that's a big chunk of $$ for just a VAN.
Ill keep in simple. . .
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DustinV
Maybe you should read the instruction manual.

You can create extra space inside an R class by folding and compacting the the rear seats. I can even do this in my C class.

Well, I'm not a complete idiot - I am aware of this. What I'm saying is even with all the rear seats folded flat the R-class does not have nearly the interior volume that the Odyssey has. This is also illustrated quite well when I have the R-Class and the Odyssey parked next to each other. The Ody is quite a bit taller AND the rear seat disappears into the floor.

R-Class: Interior Cargo Volume w/Seats Folded 42.2 cu.ft. interior cargo volume w/seats folded

Odyssey: Interior Cargo Volume w/Seats Folded 91.1 cu.ft. interior cargo volume w/seats folded

My beach cruiser fits inside the Odyssey standing up with the handlebars at their regular adjustment. With my brother's classic Schwinn, we do have to fold the handlebars. Actually, I put both cruisers in there with the middle seats still in place! One cruiser won't fit in the R-Class even lying on its' side!

I like the R-Class (ours has the Brabus lowering kit and 22x10" & 22x11" wheels), but don't try this with one!


The R-Class does look pretty dope fixed-up. We call it "The Hearse."

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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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R class is just paying for the MERCEDES badge, I rather cough up my dough on a GL, but its not pratical for me to spend too much $$$$ on a car right now.

WOW! You sure can haul a lot of stuff in the Ody. . .
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