Mercedes admits R-Class was a failure
My experience of the R Class is as a shuttle between the dealer and work... but I would agree that it does feel somewhat cheap inside... Its kind of neither one thing or the other... does not feel luxurious and composed enough as a Mercedes should be... while at the same time not offering all the utilities and space of cheaper vehicles...
Its one of those variants that does not quite feel a "real" Mercedes... like the A, B, C, and ML Class also... Perhaps MB should rebadge the S, SL, CL, and CLS as "real Mercedes"!
Chris
Its one of those variants that does not quite feel a "real" Mercedes... like the A, B, C, and ML Class also... Perhaps MB should rebadge the S, SL, CL, and CLS as "real Mercedes"!
Chris
From what I see here in Brooklyn, the R class seems to be doing extremely well with upper class hasidic Jews. Drive through upper class jewish neighboorhoods, such as Mill Basin, Ocean Parkway, and the R classes are all over.
That being said, I think that the R class isn't very successful because it's interior is tacky for a Mercedes.
That being said, I think that the R class isn't very successful because it's interior is tacky for a Mercedes.
The main problem with this vehicle was that the strongly similiar (but not identical) Chrysler Pacifica, at the time its own corporate stablemate, was available at half the R's price, albeit without the advanced Mercedes safety features. I pointed this out to Mercedes reps at the D.C. auto show and showed them the strong similarities betwen the two, even the same 2+2+2 seating.....and the vast price difference. But they, with the usual German auto manufacturer arrogance, simply didn't want to listen....and they gave me some flak for it. History and the auto market, though, showed who was correct. 

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I don't see anything about it that would appeal to Jews more than any other vehicle....unless they just like a wide center console so they don't have to sit close to one another.
I dont know, a lot of hasidic Jew around here drive minivans, so I guess the richer ones buy the R class, as it's the only expensive minivan.
The main problem with this vehicle was that the strongly similiar (but not identical) Chrysler Pacifica, at the time its own corporate stablemate, was available at half the R's price, albeit without the advanced Mercedes safety features. I pointed this out to Mercedes reps at the D.C. auto show and showed them the strong similarities betwen the two, even the same 2+2+2 seating.....and the vast price difference. But they, with the usual German auto manufacturer arrogance, simply didn't want to listen....and they gave me some flak for it. History and the auto market, though, showed who was correct. 

Check next year how well Venza is doing - it will sell crapload, because not only it is usable, it also looks as good as an SUV even though it is much lower vehicle with lower profile.
Thats where MB missed the mark.
I laugh everytime I see the R on the road. I always have to look inside to see what kind of person would buy that nasty thing. I know I'll get pinged for this comment, but I normally see either some goober driving that van, or some very old soccer mom/grandma.
I also think the Pacifica is an ugly vehicle too. It has Ford styling and performace - Fat, Blocky, Heavy and Underpowered
I also think the Pacifica is an ugly vehicle too. It has Ford styling and performace - Fat, Blocky, Heavy and Underpowered
The main problem with this vehicle was that the strongly similiar (but not identical) Chrysler Pacifica, at the time its own corporate stablemate, was available at half the R's price, albeit without the advanced Mercedes safety features. I pointed this out to Mercedes reps at the D.C. auto show and showed them the strong similarities betwen the two, even the same 2+2+2 seating.....and the vast price difference. But they, with the usual German auto manufacturer arrogance, simply didn't want to listen....and they gave me some flak for it. History and the auto market, though, showed who was correct. 

It's just a Mercedes minivan, pure and simple. I just can't see someone thinking in their right mind thinking well I had a Sienna or Odyssey and now I want to move up to something more luxurious, but that was the way it was literally sold to me when I took a look at one at a Mercedes dealer here.
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