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how about a fully loaded camry for $36K which is well into Lexus pricing territory? Nobody is stupid enough to buy a base car and then load it with every options available.
regardless of the price, it's still going to do some serious a$$ kicking.
Fully loaded Camry is $32,000. Don't know where you get $36,000.
Personally I think the options are way overpriced. But stick to a mostly base car and it's decent value for the standard equipment, especially on a 135i IMHO.
Did you not read the Autoblog link and that posted price list, which was posted directly from the LA autoshow?
Originally Posted by newr
how about a fully loaded camry for $36K which is well into Lexus pricing territory? Nobody is stupid enough to buy a base car and then load it with every options available.
regardless of the price, it's still going to do some serious a$$ kicking.
But a lot of people are going to moderately option it. Most people don't buy the bare-bones model just as most people don't buy fully loaded. Most people buy in the middle. A moderately loaded 135i will still be in the mid 40s. No matter how you look at it, the 135i is just too expensive for what you're getting. For the same price, you can get an Evo X or STi which will have similar straight-line performance, but will eat the 135i in the twisties. Plus an Evo and STi have much bigger aftermarket, and more interior room.
Fully loaded Camry is $32,000. Don't know where you get $36,000.
got it from toyota site
Originally Posted by TRDFantasy
Did you not read the Autoblog link and that posted price list, which was posted directly from the LA autoshow?
But a lot of people are going to moderately option it. Most people don't buy the bare-bones model just as most people don't buy fully loaded. Most people buy in the middle. A moderately loaded 135i will still be in the mid 40s. No matter how you look at it, the 135i is just too expensive for what you're getting. For the same price, you can get an Evo X or STi which will have similar straight-line performance, but will eat the 135i in the twisties. Plus an Evo and STi have much bigger aftermarket, and more interior room.
Different strokes for different folks. Is the premium pricing on the ES justifiable comparing to the Camry? Expensive is relative. If everyone was looking for value, they would be shopping at Walmart and thrift stores.
~ $52,000 for a fully loaded 135i. What was BMW thinking? I did the math to confirm, and it seems correct.
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No, as usual, information here on CL about BMW's is often wrong. Its $47,995 per my calc.
Things like Power Front Seats ($995) are part of the Premium package (see the ZPP right after the price). Same thing with the heated front seats (ZCW means part of the Cold Weather package) and of course same thing with the leather - also part of the premium package.
And yes, $47,995 is a lot of money - but let's be real here, that would mean clicking every option box and getting things like:
Active Steering
HD Radio
Sirius Sat Radio
iPOD/USB integration
Park Dist Control
Things that are not available in a lot of cars (especially entry level cars for a premium manufacturer) and will probably not be purchased by the average 135 buyer.