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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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By Tom Krisher, AP Business Writer
Sales Slide for Mustang; Ford Hopes for Second Wind From Icon


DETROIT (AP) -- The latest version of Ford's iconic Mustang is appears to be growing old, and back-to-back monthly sales declines to start 2007 have the struggling company a little worried.

The new Mustang, which made its debut in the fall of 2004, has been a bright spot for Ford at a time when bright spots have been few.

So when Mustang sales dropped by 19 percent in January and February compared with the same months in 2006, company officials became a little concerned.

"It's gotten our attention because when a high volume product like that declines as much as that, we want to see what we might want to do," said George Pipas, Ford Motor Co.'s top sales analyst.

A drop in Mustang sales should be a worry for Ford. Overall U.S. sales slipped 8 percent last year. The company sold 160,975 Mustangs in 2005 and 166,530 in 2006, big numbers in the midsize sports coupe market, a segment considered to be a niche.

"It did phenomenally well for a while, due in part to (it being) really the only car in the segment," said David Lucas, vice president of Autodata Corp. "It was exciting. It appealed both to young people and the people who remember what the Mustang used to be."

Pipas said even Ford was surprised at the car's staying power when sales continued to grow last year, though it is during the second year full year when sales usually begin to decline for most models.

It could be too soon, however, to write of Ford's Mustang, Pipas said.

"Two months is hardly a litmus test for the entire year, particularly when the two months aren't big sales months for anything, let alone two-door sports coupes," he said.

Still, Ford is working to keep the Mustang fresh with new variations that keep the car exciting, as well gearing up new promotions heading into the spring and summer, traditionally the Mustang's best sales months, said spokesman Alan Hall.

The company just began shipping new versions of a Shelby GT Mustang, and sometime next year, it plans a dark-green "Bullitt" version reminiscent of the 1968 Fastback Mustang GT that Steve McQueen drove in the classic movie.

"We have other things up our sleeve that we can't talk about that you'll see midyear," said Hall.

Cars with sportier body styles like the Mustang traditionally have shorter life cycles than more conventional cars, said Tom Libby, J.D. Power and Associates' senior director of industry analysis. The Mustang, because of its name and status, has defied that at times, Libby said.

Still, Ford must do everything it can to protect the Mustang's turf, he said.

"That model is a core model for them," he said. "They can't let this one fall off its perch."

The company's other remaining icon, the F-series pickup truck, also has seen its sales drop and is facing heavy competition from General Motors Corp. and Toyota Motor Corp.

Competition for the Mustang is only going to get worse when Dodge resurrects the Challenger muscle car in 2008 and Chevrolet comes out with the new Camaro early in 2009.

"When you've got the Mustang and the Camaro and the Challenger going head-to-head, the winner is the consumer because it's going to put a lot of downward pressure on prices," Libby said.

There's also pressure on Ford to roll out a new model faster to compete with Chevrolet and Dodge, something all automakers are under pressure to do with intense competition in just about every market.

"They can't let it languish so it's in the doldrums when the Camaro comes out," said Libby. "They have to keep it at the forefront."

Ford won't say when a new Mustang will hit showrooms, but Pipas said he wouldn't be surprised to see it sooner than later.

"There will be another Mustang before too long," he said. "This is a product where you like to redesign the product and give these loyal buyers something to look at every four years or so, give or take."

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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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Too heavy, too slow. Seems everyone with one of these Mustangs is always asking me at the track, can you get me a Vortech from the States?
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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Yeah.. the Retro look was old before they even were mass produced.!
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Ford should just cancel everything else off and only be in the business of selling F-150 trucks. That should make them even more profitable than Porsche.
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Originally Posted by RiceMaster
Ford should just cancel everything else off and only be in the business of selling F-150 trucks. That should make them even more profitable than Porsche.
F150 sales have also been plummeting. And now with the Tundra as competition, Ford will again lose more of the pickup market share. It a sad but true fact.
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I had a Mustang ,07, convertible for a month while my Fusion was at Ford for repairs.
It was a V6 and had impressive torque off the line though the RSX that destroyed me off the line does not think so
The top was clumsy (compared to my SC430-different class of course), the interior bland, and it stalled twice on me and had a faulty gas guage. But...past that, for what it is supposed to do and at it's price point, I did enjoy the car. Nice ride up the 101 into Santa Barbara with the top down though in the back of my mind I was praying it would not stall on me.
I am not a fan of the whole retro thing and would prefer a nicer interior layout. Cheap would be an understatement with my Fusion being leagues ahead in refinement. With the Camaro coming (is it for sure?) the Pony car will have a tough time competing.

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F150 sales have also been plummeting. And now with the Tundra as competition, Ford will again lose more of the pickup market share. It a sad but true fact.
So you're saying Ford should quit the auto business altogether? File for bankruptcy, take the money and run? GM and Toyota will be thrilled if that happens. I wonder what percentage Tundra would get if Ford were to shutdown.

If I'm not mistaken, F-150 sale alone totals more than all of Lexus/Infinti/acura/Ferrari/Porsche combine. F-150 is the main reason why Ford hasn't gone under yet.
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Originally Posted by RiceMaster
So you're saying Ford should quit the auto business altogether? File for bankruptcy, take the money and run? GM and Toyota will be thrilled if that happens. I wonder what percentage Tundra would get if Ford were to shutdown.

If I'm not mistaken, F-150 sale alone totals more than all of Lexus/Infinti/acura/Ferrari/Porsche combine. F-150 is the main reason why Ford hasn't gone under yet.
Actually I believe F-150 sales are around 800,00 per year. Toyota sales are over 9 million.
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