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11-27-06, 09:05 PM
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subie fanatics???
hey i dont know how many of you guys are big subaru fans...but i know i love them! haha im probably gonna stop my SC400 project an build up/swap an impreza L.... heres what i want the turn out to be. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1110617 ....tell me what you guys think!!!
11-27-06, 10:39 PM
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i wanna pick up an impreza L an pick up a JDM wrx ver. 4 front clip an get it fully instaleld for like 3g for parts an labor...im starting to get everything priced out by a local shop.
11-28-06, 06:57 AM
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Yeah, I'm a subie fan...but for practical rather than high-performance reasons. They make the best AWD systems in the $35,000 and under class because not only is it durable and well-proved, but is also simpler than other AWD systems with transverse-mount engines. The Subaru system uses the horizontal ( flat ) four and six engines, which are light and mounted relatively low in the chassis for stability and handling, and has the output going straight beck to the transmission, final-drive, and front AWD hardware behind it without the need for extra devices to re-route the power and torque like on the RAV-4, CR-V, Outlander, Tuscon / Santa Fe, etc......
Subaru also uses five different center differentials depending on the engine engine and transmission ( see their web site for details ).
I've long considered Subies some of the best winter cars for the money ( see my recent list of recomended snow vehicles ), but this year the brand-new Suzuki SX4 steals some of the thunder as probably the best AWD entry-level value...SX4's start at only 15-16K and have a variable AWD system that can be turned off for high-traction conditions, thereby saving gas and giving better acceleration.
As far as dropping a WRX mill into your Legacy, Subaru has already more or less done that for you with the Legacy GT. It uses a 2.5 flat-4 turbo with 250 HP / 250 ft.-lbs. of torque, and was designed for the vehicle and installed at the factory...you won't have any guesswork doing it yourself and the chances for error. Consider a Legacy GT if thet is the way you want to go.
Other than that, my only caution on Subaru engines is to avoid the 1999-2002 2.5i flat-4 non turbo. Head gaskets are a known issue with that engine in several model years, but particularly from 1999 to 2002. In 2003 Subaru redesigned the head gaskets, and they have ben much more reliable. A coolant conditioner.....now used in all new Subarus at the factory.....is available for the 1999-2002 2.5's that will extend their original warranties to 8 years.
And welcome to Club Lexus. I had a Lexus IS300 when I first joined CL, and stayed on even when I got my Subie ( a 2006 Outback ), simply because there is no better auto chat forum. There are a number of Subaru owner forums out there ( I belong to one or two myself and sometimes post on them ) but none of them can compare with CL.
Subaru also uses five different center differentials depending on the engine engine and transmission ( see their web site for details ).
I've long considered Subies some of the best winter cars for the money ( see my recent list of recomended snow vehicles ), but this year the brand-new Suzuki SX4 steals some of the thunder as probably the best AWD entry-level value...SX4's start at only 15-16K and have a variable AWD system that can be turned off for high-traction conditions, thereby saving gas and giving better acceleration.
As far as dropping a WRX mill into your Legacy, Subaru has already more or less done that for you with the Legacy GT. It uses a 2.5 flat-4 turbo with 250 HP / 250 ft.-lbs. of torque, and was designed for the vehicle and installed at the factory...you won't have any guesswork doing it yourself and the chances for error. Consider a Legacy GT if thet is the way you want to go.
Other than that, my only caution on Subaru engines is to avoid the 1999-2002 2.5i flat-4 non turbo. Head gaskets are a known issue with that engine in several model years, but particularly from 1999 to 2002. In 2003 Subaru redesigned the head gaskets, and they have ben much more reliable. A coolant conditioner.....now used in all new Subarus at the factory.....is available for the 1999-2002 2.5's that will extend their original warranties to 8 years.
And welcome to Club Lexus. I had a Lexus IS300 when I first joined CL, and stayed on even when I got my Subie ( a 2006 Outback ), simply because there is no better auto chat forum. There are a number of Subaru owner forums out there ( I belong to one or two myself and sometimes post on them ) but none of them can compare with CL.
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11-28-06, 07:21 AM
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As far as dropping a WRX mill into your Legacy, Subaru has already more or less done that for you with the Legacy GT. It uses a 2.5 flat-4 turbo with 250 HP / 250 ft.-lbs. of torque, and was designed for the vehicle and installed at the factory...you won't have any guesswork doing it yourself and the chances for error. Consider a Legacy GT if thet is the way you want to go.
Other than that, my only caution on Subaru engines is to avoid the 1999-2002 2.5i flat-4 non turbo. Head gaskets are a known issue with that engine in several model years, but particularly from 1999 to 2002. In 2003 Subaru redesigned the head gaskets, and they have ben much more reliable. A coolant conditioner.....now used in all new Subarus at the factory.....is available for the 1999-2002 2.5's that will extend their original warranties to 8 years.
Other than that, my only caution on Subaru engines is to avoid the 1999-2002 2.5i flat-4 non turbo. Head gaskets are a known issue with that engine in several model years, but particularly from 1999 to 2002. In 2003 Subaru redesigned the head gaskets, and they have ben much more reliable. A coolant conditioner.....now used in all new Subarus at the factory.....is available for the 1999-2002 2.5's that will extend their original warranties to 8 years.
Our daily driver is a 97 Maxima SE (my wife mainly drives this car) and I want to eventually get rid of it (it will start falling apart very soon) and get her a Subie mainly for the reasons you mentioned in this thread.
However the only Subie I like is the Legacy GT (I can't stand the looks of the rest of the Subies - they are such ugly cars) and was just curious to know when they came out and which particular model to get (assuming they came in different versions). Of course AWD would be preferable for the couple of times a year in the winter when it is needed.
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And welcome to Club Lexus. I had a Lexus IS300 when I first joined CL, and stayed on even when I got my Subie ( a 2006 Outback ), simply because there is no better auto chat forum. There are a number of Subaru owner forums out there ( I belong to one or two myself and sometimes post on them ) but none of them can compare with CL.[/QUOTE]
agreed club lexus is awseom...i do nasioc and rs25.com and scoobynet there pretty cool but not as coo las CL! haha
agreed club lexus is awseom...i do nasioc and rs25.com and scoobynet there pretty cool but not as coo las CL! haha
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11-28-06, 02:43 PM
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2005, I believe. The Legacy and Outback were given a major redesign that year, with a major upgrade in interior quality. The new Legacy GT...and the Turbo Outback XT....were given a turbo, premium-fuel version of the rather ubiquitous Subaru 2.5i flat-four, making 250 HP and 250 ft-lbs. of torque.
The stock Legacy GT, though, like the WRX and unlike the turbo Outbacks, and being primarily a sports sedan rather than a serious winter-road eater, came factory-equipped with tires that were more conducive to dry-weather performance than for climbing ski slopes. if you want your Legacy GT to be a winter snow-bunny as well you may have to invest in a set of more winter-appropriate tires. The Turbo Outbacks don't have that problem because unlike the Turbo Legacys, they come from the factory with more winter-appropriate tires.....and a lot more ground clearance for deep snow.
The stock Legacy GT, though, like the WRX and unlike the turbo Outbacks, and being primarily a sports sedan rather than a serious winter-road eater, came factory-equipped with tires that were more conducive to dry-weather performance than for climbing ski slopes. if you want your Legacy GT to be a winter snow-bunny as well you may have to invest in a set of more winter-appropriate tires. The Turbo Outbacks don't have that problem because unlike the Turbo Legacys, they come from the factory with more winter-appropriate tires.....and a lot more ground clearance for deep snow.
11-28-06, 05:46 PM
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11-28-06, 06:11 PM
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2005, I believe. The Legacy and Outback were given a major redesign that year, with a major upgrade in interior quality. The new Legacy GT...and the Turbo Outback XT....were given a turbo, premium-fuel version of the rather ubiquitous Subaru 2.5i flat-four, making 250 HP and 250 ft-lbs. of torque.
The stock Legacy GT, though, like the WRX and unlike the turbo Outbacks, and being primarily a sports sedan rather than a serious winter-road eater, came factory-equipped with tires that were more conducive to dry-weather performance than for climbing ski slopes. if you want your Legacy GT to be a winter snow-bunny as well you may have to invest in a set of more winter-appropriate tires. The Turbo Outbacks don't have that problem because unlike the Turbo Legacys, they come from the factory with more winter-appropriate tires.....and a lot more ground clearance for deep snow.
The stock Legacy GT, though, like the WRX and unlike the turbo Outbacks, and being primarily a sports sedan rather than a serious winter-road eater, came factory-equipped with tires that were more conducive to dry-weather performance than for climbing ski slopes. if you want your Legacy GT to be a winter snow-bunny as well you may have to invest in a set of more winter-appropriate tires. The Turbo Outbacks don't have that problem because unlike the Turbo Legacys, they come from the factory with more winter-appropriate tires.....and a lot more ground clearance for deep snow.
I would love a new Legacy gt but I just can't afford it. I'll just swap my old Legacy and have fun with it.
11-28-06, 07:40 PM
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from what ive read...the ej22t's that the shop Frantic4 over here builds are very durable. my friend just got his jdm STI swapped impreza L wagon a few weeks ago and it pretty much hauls.
11-28-06, 07:53 PM
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Nope......I've read all of your reviews on all types of cars and read eveything here is this thread to and it is my honor to be the one to correct you, lol. They had a 1996 Legacy GT, turbo'd, AWD, manual or auto, sedan. They go for about 4-6k with decent milage on them.
I would love a new Legacy gt but I just can't afford it. I'll just swap my old Legacy and have fun with it.
I would love a new Legacy gt but I just can't afford it. I'll just swap my old Legacy and have fun with it.
But you have a point.
I didn't remember the old turbo Legacy from 1996, and they obviously did not build one for a number of years after that. When the AWD WRX, and later the Sti and Evo, bowed in the early 2000's, they took a lot of the Legacy GT's potential market of buyers.......except that today, the Legacy GT, and to a lesser extent the AWD MazdaSpeed 6.......are considered Evos and STi's for adults.
11-28-06, 09:10 PM
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