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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 11:52 PM
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Sorry, Q uses no false wood trim LOL. Call the Service at Glendale Infiniti as you been wrongly informed again.
Well, I dont know whether its false or not, but it sure looks false, especially the black wood trim. I also hated the way wood trim is applied on the steering wheel - its just a thin layer applied to the face side of the steering wheel. Lexus for isntance uses solid wood inserts - much better looking and much more durable.
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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Actually I think Infiniti and Nissan are on the right path, have been ever since the introduction of the new Altima. Right now the Altima is very competitive with Accord and Camry, as it is available in both 6 and 4 cylinders, unlike the old Maxima which was 6 cyl only and old Altima, which was 4 cylinder only. They didn't have anything to compete with 4 cyl Camrys and Accords, but now the Altima does very well - it competes with these two, and the 6 cyl model took over for the old Maxima.

Then they got rid of the I30/35, and made Infiniti consist of real premium cars only. They covered the I30/35 market with the new upscale Maxima. Then they release the G35, which literally wiped the floor with silly 3 series. Then the FX, now the M. And this new G35 is even better. IMO they should release the new Q, right now people have a lot of interest in the brand with the launch of the new G, so the Q wont go unnoticed.

And IMO Lexus should take some lessons from Infiniti. Release the IS350 with manual, release a coupe with tuned suspension, get rid of the glorified Camry - it doesn't belong in a premium line up!
I concur with your sentiments exactly... someones been doing their homework ;0

Dont worry the Q will be taking over the mainstream shortly . I cant believe how impressed I was with the new G35 bells and whistles which are on par or even surpass the new LS so just imagine what the new Q is going to have
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Och
Well, I dont know whether its false or not, but it sure looks false, especially the black wood trim. I also hated the way wood trim is applied on the steering wheel - its just a thin layer applied to the face side of the steering wheel. Lexus for isntance uses solid wood inserts - much better looking and much more durable.
The old Q had full wood trim around the steering wheels but others have been taking note and doing half wood and half leather like a few other premium model cars like Jaguar and a few other brands I noticed. I personally like it since I got the best of both worlds. I dont like a full wood steering wheels as it gets to hot when temps are over 100 degress and burn up your hands. I'd honestly prefer and all leather type steering wheel like the M45 and BM7 Series. The woodtrim is kinda played out now.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 01:23 AM
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I concur with your sentiments exactly... someones been doing their homework ;0

Dont worry the Q will be taking over the mainstream shortly . I cant believe how impressed I was with the new G35 bells and whistles which are on par or even surpass the new LS so just imagine what the new Q is going to have
Yeah, that's what you Infiniti boys thought about the current model.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 06:55 AM
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I was just because that new g35 starting at 32.5 sounds like a steal and it seems infiniti listened to all the flaws about the last g and made the interior 100x better than the previous. 0-60 in 5.2 with a 7600 redline thats something serious dang i wish the IS had a 6-speed manual that baby would easily break the 5 second mark.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 07:03 AM
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they ignored the Q too long and thats why it sucks now, the M45 was just as big, just as fast, Q was neglected for many years
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Och
Actually I think Infiniti and Nissan are on the right path, have been ever since the introduction of the new Altima. Right now the Altima is very competitive with Accord and Camry, as it is available in both 6 and 4 cylinders, unlike the old Maxima which was 6 cyl only and old Altima, which was 4 cylinder only. They didn't have anything to compete with 4 cyl Camrys and Accords, but now the Altima does very well - it competes with these two, and the 6 cyl model took over for the old Maxima.

Then they got rid of the I30/35, and made Infiniti consist of real premium cars only. They covered the I30/35 market with the new upscale Maxima. Then they release the G35, which literally wiped the floor with silly 3 series. Then the FX, now the M. And this new G35 is even better. IMO they should release the new Q, right now people have a lot of interest in the brand with the launch of the new G, so the Q wont go unnoticed.

And IMO Lexus should take some lessons from Infiniti. Release the IS350 with manual, release a coupe with tuned suspension, get rid of the glorified Camry - it doesn't belong in a premium line up!
I agree with most of what you said, just a few points I want to add. First, I agree Infiniti should release a new flagship sedan over the current M45 within a year or two. But I hope it doesn't carry the moniker "Q". Q has a very bad sales history that bring a bad impression to the potential buyers. Plus, "Q" in my opinion doesn't have a very mature and high class feeling, since "Q" is pronounced similarly to the word "cute". If it is a mini cooper competitor, yeah call it a "Q". Second, I really don't think Lexus would get rid of their second best selling sedan-ES. But I do hope they would bring in the Japanese market Crown to the U.S. and rebadge it under Lexus, above the ES and under the LS. If Lexus could have three or soon to be four SUVs, I am sure they need more than four sedans. And to expand the lineup, Lexus needs a sports coupe and roadster based on IS.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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Sorry others on the board confusing you and giving you false information.
Anyhow...to clear things up Q is not discontinued. They released a 2006 model and there will be no 07 model currently. They are doing a redesign currently (as we speak) that will make it for 08. I seen some images from Japan at the Glendale Infiniti that that showed a heavily cloaked up material covering it but it looked similar to the current Audi A8L but longer and wider as they will have a longbase and short base version. Go down to the Glendale Infiniti and ask for Matt.. he wasnt supposed to show me the photos but since I bought my 05 from him he was obliged to show me and keeping on the down low or whatever. Regardless there will be an 08 no matter what others on the board have said and cracks me up that they say it's discontinued just because there is no 07 model. People should know the facts before making assumptions especially when others depend on for factualy information from moderators but since this is a pro lexus board I give them the benefit of the doubt of not knowing whats really going on behind closed doors. I do know however the engine will be pushing minimum 400hp and will be dropping the q45 name and possibly being called Q55 from what they are saying. They were the ones who actually showed me picks of the m45 back in 02 before they even announced the FUGA so they are a reliable source. Another sales guy at the wheel warehouse in Anahiem wheelwarehouse.com named Carlos came across the photos as well and said its going to blow away new LS hands down but we'll just have to wait and see. If anyone calls the store mention the guy who had an 05 looking for the 22inch which was me and the discussion we had about the 2008 Q45 and he'll give you all the details

Also for reference

http://www.intellichoice.com/future/future/year/2008
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2008 Hyundai pickup
Launch.

2008 Hyundai Sport Wagon
Versatile, all-weather sport wagon joins the popular vehicle segment. Launch timing coincides with target completion date for a new six-speed automatic transmission intended for AWD vehicles. Hmm.

2008 Hyundai Tiburon
A convertible joins the redesigned coupe.

2008 Infiniti CX
Infiniti will join the BMW X3-fighter fray for the 2008 model year with a smaller V-6 and four-cylinder counterpart to its FX35/45 crossover. Named CX25 (for the 2.5-liter four-cylinder version that'll be the volume seller in Europe), and CX35 (for the hotter 3.5-liter V-6 version expected to take most sales in the U.S.), the CX will share many of the FX's bold styling cues. It'll be built on a shortened next-generation FM front-mid-engine platform. The versatile FM underpins the FX35/45, M35/45, G35, Nissan 350Z, and the next Skyline GT-R.

2008 Infiniti FX
Redesign.

2008 Infiniti M35/M45
Freshening.

2008 Infiniti Q45
Redesign.

2008 Infiniti Skyline GT-R
We can't tell you whether it will be sold in North America as the Nissan GT-R or the Infiniti GT-R, because Nissan brass claims it hasn't decided. (Insiders favor Infiniti, citing a better price fit, need for a performance halo vehicle, and desire to protect the marketing value of the 350Z.) We can end rumors that Nissan would slide in a 4.5-liter V-8 for North America and confidently tell you that the United States gets the same engine as the rest of the world. The engine we expect will be a highly tuned twin-turbo 3.7L/450-hp V-6, powering the rear wheels. The '08 model launching in late '07 will be the first GT-R sold in left- as well as right-hand-drive versions. Codenamed R35, this will also be the first Skyline to wear its own unique sheetmetal. Expect a few changes to be made from the Tokyo concept as the GT-R races to production, particularly with the front bumper and headlamps
THat link is clueless. Nissan HELD A PRESS CONFERENCE and had a PRESS RELEASE the GT-R will be a Nissan. Infiniti dealers were up in arms (Again).

If there is no 2007 model and there are 2007 Infiniti's and the year 2007 is in 4 months, that means discontinued.

They didn't even have the Q in the sales invitation I had in the mail last month. They had the FX/G35/M35/45/QX56. A 2 car and 2 SUV lineup.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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Actually I think Infiniti and Nissan are on the right path, have been ever since the introduction of the new Altima. Right now the Altima is very competitive with Accord and Camry, as it is available in both 6 and 4 cylinders, unlike the old Maxima which was 6 cyl only and old Altima, which was 4 cylinder only. They didn't have anything to compete with 4 cyl Camrys and Accords, but now the Altima does very well - it competes with these two, and the 6 cyl model took over for the old Maxima.

Then they got rid of the I30/35, and made Infiniti consist of real premium cars only. They covered the I30/35 market with the new upscale Maxima. Then they release the G35, which literally wiped the floor with silly 3 series. Then the FX, now the M. And this new G35 is even better. IMO they should release the new Q, right now people have a lot of interest in the brand with the launch of the new G, so the Q wont go unnoticed.

And IMO Lexus should take some lessons from Infiniti. Release the IS350 with manual, release a coupe with tuned suspension, get rid of the glorified Camry - it doesn't belong in a premium line up!
Infiniti could learn a hella lot more from Lexus than Lexus could learn from Nissan....lol...u got to be kidding me.
Glorified Camry? The ES 350 is class leading for years now. IT has perfected the entry level luxury segment. Realtalk, the G35 is a Nissan Skyline, which we all know is based on the 350Z. Hell the M35/45 is also based, on the 350Z.

So if you want Lexus to get rid of a glorified Camry, the whole Infiniti lineup should be abandoned, since all the cars are like the ES 350, based on a lesser car, i.e the 350Z.

Literally wiped the floor with the 3? The 3 is selling better then ever and is still THE entry level sports sedan to have. Hell yes the G35 did well but your acting like its THE car to have in the segment.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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Another sales guy at the wheel warehouse in Anahiem wheelwarehouse.com named Carlos came across the photos as well and said its going to blow away new LS hands down but we'll just have to wait and see.
Blow away the new LS? Well if Carlos said so, I guess it has to be true
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It's going to be hard to blow away the Ls460. This car Is a beauty with technolgy that BMW audi and mercedes dream to have without taking it to get serviced every other week.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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i think it's going to be hard for the q to come close to blow away the new LS as well. infiniti q just doesn't have close to as strong as a hisotry and name as the lexus LS, and that plays a bit role when you are trying to hit your flagship

look at lexus, it takes them that long to get here, and still personally i dont' see the LS (either the 89 or the 07) "blowing" away the bmw 7 or the mb s. unless the new Q can fly, i don't see that happening. might be a contender, but that's about it
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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Let the Q rest in peace. It's dead already...just like the G20, M30, J30, I35 and QX4...
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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Let the Q rest in peace. It's dead already...just like the G20, M30, J30, I35 and QX4...
Look what happened to the G that came out of nowhere... it was an instant hit and still to this day contributes to 1/3 of all Infiniti's sales. Look at the M... out of nowhere they resurrected the name from the early 90's and has already made it's name and surpassed all the other cars in its class included the GS. Same goes with the FX. Now that Infiniti has a somewhat decent fanbase all they need now bring out the Q like they did the M45 with all the bells and whistles and Infiniti will be back on track against the other competition. Infiniti was practically dead until the G35 actually brought the brand back from the dead and Infiniti has been steadily making it's way back on track. It doesnt take 10 years for a brand to make its name (G35 and M45 for example). It just takes a few niches here and there and some creative marketing and the sales will come in. It's just a big marketing game and Infiniti has been just warming up.

If this Q comes out similar with a great engine/performance and intuitive design like the M45 and G35 but more luxurious and innovative then rest assured Infiniti will be getting clost to competing with Lexus sales or lets just say getting back on track

Infiniti has alread proven to provide instant hits from out of nowhere so this is their last chance with the Q and I dont think they will dissapoint because of their lastest offerings with the G, M and FX. Now do you think they would really screw this up this time... I really dont think so but only time well tell. Honestly I couldnt be happier with my 05 and dont mind that I hardly see too many on the road which makes me appreciate it more and more. I love the performance, the suspension is awesome and rides on 22's like glass better than my range rover and s-class. Infiniti has never dissapointed from an egineering standpoint but has never learned how to have clever marketing schemes like Lexus to promote their cars but they are slowly catching on.

Who knows maybe the next Q might be the biggest blunder in the world or it might be the best thing behind closed doors that none of us even have a clue about it. My bet is the next Q will on par with the LS or possibly better. You have to go back in time in 01 when Infiniti was the first brand to put a rear camera in a car and now after 5 years later every other brand has copied and immated the brand. Infiniti just did not know how to market the Q which has deemed the car as failure. In sales yes, but in craftsmanship, engine/performance, innovative features... not even close.

Rest assured Infiniti has some new innovative features to go along with a exhilarting engine to compete with all the other luxury brands. I just hope they dont wait to long to bring it out but whatever... we shall see what the future holds but as far as features and performance I dont think theirs any car that can touch the new LS in terms of performance and luxury combined including the new S-Class. The new LS in terms of appearance just doesn't appeal to me just like how the Q45 never appealed to others but that's why everyone has different tastes. I love the Q and have never thought twice about any other car I test drove including the Audi A8 05, and LS430 05.




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