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Sep 6, 2005 | 05:42 PM

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Avalon > 300

Sep 6, 2005 | 08:36 PM

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Avalon > 300

And it is almost as fast as the 300c HEMI as well.

I'd also take the Avalon over a 300 or 300c. Rented one to go from Sacramento to Reno and it was really nice, almost Lexus like. Confortable, bigger (compared to my GS anyway) and enough power to pull you up the mountains. With my experience with the Dodge Magnum HEMI I would say this car could give the HEMI a run for it's money on the highway. On the low end, the Dodge takes it but I honestly couldn't tell which one pulls faster at higher speeds. Would have had to driven both back to back to know because it was that close. The only thing the 300c has on it is the exterior styling that will turn more heads & RWD. The Avalon is a more genaric design and by looking at one, is a total sleeper.

I don't know about the 300 and 300c. American cars usually have resale values that drop faster than a rock. And it might just be a fad. That matters to me because I'm the type of person that will buy a car and keep it for 10+ years, if not the whole lifetime of the car.

Sep 6, 2005 | 09:47 PM

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I personally couldnt buy the 300 without the HEMI. Ive driven both v6 models and HEMI model countless times and the V6's are very weak for this heavy car. Most will be able to live with it, but not me. Also the slight headlight treatment of the 300C to the rest of the 300's is also a deal breaker for me as well. I dont mind the interior treatment on the 300C's with Navi. The other models do look rediculously cheap though. I believe you can get a Limited with Navi and other packages as well.

300C over ES330, but ES330 over 300 base, touring, limited. I assume you are worried about gas which is probably why you ruled out the HEMI option. If thats the case, then I would have to go with the Avalon.

I would also give the new Passat a look as well. Same price range 280hp and features that rival the Avalon.

EDIT: Be prepared for winter in that RWD 300 if you decide to go with that. There is also an AWD option available, same for the Passat.

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Sep 6, 2005 | 11:34 PM

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Thanks for the replies everyone. After taking another look at it today I think I'm gonna pass. But, I did find something else while shopping around. A 99 Lexus GS300 with 25k miles price is $23995. Does that price seem pretty reasonable?

Sep 7, 2005 | 09:09 AM

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I don't know about the 300 and 300c. American cars usually have resale values that drop faster than a rock. And it might just be a fad. That matters to me because I'm the type of person that will buy a car and keep it for 10+ years, if not the whole lifetime of the car.

I think it's mostly just a fad, after one year sales have dropped, even if you combine the 300, Magnum and Charger LX cars. And the Magnum is basically a fleet car.

I believe the Avalon outsold the 300 by over 1000units this month.

Sep 7, 2005 | 02:46 PM

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That price is too high, especially for just a stock model. It may have low miles for the year but they are selling much lower then that. I have seen plenty of 2001-02 GS300 for around that price even a good deal lower for a 2001. You could get a 2000 GS400 for that price. I think 16.5-17 is about right for that year maybe 17.5 considering the lower mileage and maybe if it has HID, heated seats, Nak. There are plenty of good deals to be found on 2nd Gen GS especially now that a new model is out. I would keep looking for better deals.

I think it is a good idea to stay away from used Chryslers. I have not really heard of too many people that have had good experiences with them. I think the styling on the 300 will get old pretty quick and that interior is just a little too low quality and cheep for my tastes. Plus you will have to deal with the poor resale value when you sell it.