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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 09:53 AM
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Yeah, the Crown will stay as a Toyota in Japan.

The Crown is the most widely recognized car "name" in Japan. It's been around for 55 years or something like that. Quite a few corporate types use it as a chaffeur car.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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the crown models compete way too much with the lexus line-up for it to be brought to the US
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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Funny how the Japanese domestic market on the other hand has been able to accomodate all of the above vehicles, Celsior, Aristo and Crown, without worrying about the lineup being overly crowded.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by XeroK00L
Funny how the Japanese domestic market on the other hand has been able to accomodate all of the above vehicles, Celsior, Aristo and Crown, without worrying about the lineup being overly crowded.
but the crowns out sell the lexus models,
which wouldn't be good for lexus in the US, if the crowns steal to much of the lexus sales
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by xioix
but the crowns out sell the lexus models,
which wouldn't be good for lexus in the US, if the crowns steal to much of the lexus sales
I meant to say, if Crown were brought in as a Lexus and slotted between the GS and the LS.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by XeroK00L
I meant to say, if Crown were brought in as a Lexus and slotted between the GS and the LS.
BINGO

like i said originally Infiniti is able to sell their G35 sedan and their M cars why couldn't Lexus sell the Crown over here between the GS and LS and call it a junior executive sedan
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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"It is built on a new FR platform that will be shared with the forthcoming new Lexus GS."

"Nevertheless, for those Japanese businessmen and company executives sitting at the rear, Crown is definitely the better choice. Before they learn to drive by themselves, Crown will continue to bias towards the rear passengers. This is the biggest difference between it and Lexus GS, and this guarantees its survival in the foreseeable future."

http://www.autozine.org/html/Toyota/Crown.html

I don't know, maybe it'll work as a plusher GS that has no aspirations on sport.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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If Crown actually comes to America, should it be between ES330 and GS300 instead? It is cheaper than GS in Japan right?
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Originally Posted by jrock65
"It is built on a new FR platform that will be shared with the forthcoming new Lexus GS."

"Nevertheless, for those Japanese businessmen and company executives sitting at the rear, Crown is definitely the better choice. Before they learn to drive by themselves, Crown will continue to bias towards the rear passengers . . .
I think that's one of the main reasons why they won't bring the Crown here, you need more space in the back (like the Avalon) to be a good rear passengers oriented car to make it comfortable for bigger Americans . . .
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