Why are people on here such Honda-bashers? Acura-bashing I can actually somewhat understand. To some, many, or even most of you, FWD and no V8 and no flagship sedan = not worthy of luxury status. I won't get into Acura, since it's pretty much a different topic, and one that's been debated heavily (and hotly) here many times. But what I don't understand is why all the animosity towards Honda and all they do.

Is it because "ricers" have tended to use Civics? (I think the term "ricer" is a very racist term, BTW, along the same lines as "Jap car" or "rice burner.") That's the only thing I can think of, other than their affiliation with Acura, which many of you see as a marque unworthy of mention in the same breath as Lexus.

It seems like Honda, Toyota, and Nissan folk can be just as silly as Ford, Chevy, and Dodge folk when it comes to car rivalries, etc. But unless you have stock in any of the companies, or unless your last name is Toyota (...), then what's the dilly-o? Many here are into modding and sporty rides, even though to most in the car world, a "sporty Lexus" is a complete and absolute oxymoron. You all are intelligent enough to see that it's not always the case. Many also appreciate that Lexuses are reliable. But then again, Hondas are very reliable vehicles as well. Maybe not topping the charts most every year like Toyota, but surely the reliability is good enough. So if you'll agree with me that Hondas are quite reliable and yet generally sportier than Toyotas (maybe not the Supra...), wouldn't it make sense that, given the types of people you are (intelligent and interested in reliable, sporty, luxurious Japanese cars), you'd have an interest and appreciation for Hondas?

I have to say, I do like the community here. I like chatting about cars and discussing the relative merits and demerits of many marques and the models they offer, but CL has a pretty bad reputation among other forums I frequent for being VERY narrow-minded. It saddens me to see that, especially since there's no point to making enemies (e-enemies, but enemies nonetheless) over things to which we have no real affiliation other than a temporal ownership.

In any case, I'm interested in hearing why Honda is so hated around here. Is no one a Honda fan? I mean, really? But please, let's keep the conversation civil.

 

Good question. I kinda want to know also. I got **** raped when I wrote a somewhat positive review about my time behind the wheel of a TL not to long ago. I usually give respect where respect is due.

You last paragraph is pretty similar to the topic that I started about what others think about CL. Arrogant, god gilfts to the world, narrowminded.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=147835

 

Fair point Inc! I agree with you.

 

umm, i don't know about others (maybe coz' i don't have much feeling), but i don't think i hate hondas. at least i love the s2k, and i think the accord is a solid value family car

to be honest, i don't see it being too different from toyota myself. they are both reliable and solid, and will go 200k miles without any major problems. toyota is more comfort with a bit better built, and honda is more sporty and driver feel. that's how i feel about the brands.

the s2k of course is different. to me it's almost the same level as the nsx, that's how good i think the car is. for a 4 banger pushing over 100hp per liter, and superb handling for a convertible, what else can i say?

for civic ricers, honestly i guess that's not only CL, if that's what you talking about. i think it's a fact that there are indeed a lot of civic ricers around town everywhere, more than any others. so that's an image they build for themselves, i don't think anyone is trying to put a disguise on them

 

I like Hondas. I think Honda-badged cars offer better and more features than Acura-badged cars.

I can honestly say that my Honda had less "little flaws" than my IS and RX have/had; one being 2 leaky headlights on my RX. My CD player did die in my Prelude (once) and my IS (twice). Still keeping my fingers crossed on the RX.

I don't think too highly of Acuras; too many little details to get into, but I'd definitely buy another Honda.

The local Honda dealership also has equal, if not higher service standards than my Lexus dealer has...

 

Honda is a company that makes excellent vehicles (and some of the best manual shifters in the buisness) but, like Toyota, is too hush-hush about future products and does not adequately explain why they make the decisions they do, at least to the non-auto media. Honda company reps need to learn to answer questions more promptly, thoroughly, and without reservations or excuses. I have gotten into some heated arguements with them more than once about this hush-hush buisness. Their dealerships have also had a reputation in the past for being arrogant, but fortunately that is changing.

 

OK so I have an opinion. Deal with it?

I'm guessing my post criticizing the Ridgeline might have prompted you to start yet another irrevelvant and redundant thread here that will end up being locked, just like virtually every other Honda/Acura thread that has popped up here as of late. We could have had an argument via PM instead.

Nothing new is going to be discussed. You know who we are, and you know our opinions already. Try the search button in case you forgot.

Guess what? I've been a member on Honda-Acura Net for years. I don't go over there praising Toyota and Lexus, and they bash to those brands constantly. It's a losing battle. Why do you expect CL to be any different? A number of us are hard-core Toyota/Lexus enthusiasts above all other brands and we can easily discount Honda and Acura if we so choose (and we do).

Furthermore, I don't go around starting threads about why I have little to no respect for Honda or Acura. It's always the minority of Honda/Acura enthusiasts or owners/previous owners of the cars that bring this up time and time again, seemingly trying to get a rise of out us "bashers."

In fact, and this rather disgusts me, there are several members here who only participate in discussion to argue about Honda/Acura or Infiniti. It's like a hit-and-run with them. You are not of those people, but the members I'm talking about do contribute to the negative atmosphere far more than people like myself or Mike (1Sick).

Like I said, there is no reason to have any more general discussion like this about Honda/Acura. Such discussions have a proven track record, and have been beaten to death. In fact, even I'm getting tired of defending Toyota/Lexus in the face of this seemingly relentless onslaught.

We've (the die-hard Toyota/Lexus fans) explained ourselves more than once regarding this topin in general, and in specific terms (discussion about particular models). I doubt any of us are going to want to continue doing so for much longer.

It's really time to let go.

 

Before I bought my Lexus & Infiniti, all the cars I ' ve personally owned are all Honda's & Acura's (Prelude, Accord, TL, CL-S) & I have an almost perfect reliability record with their cars, I still have great respect for their products. Their S2000 & NSX are among my all-time favoraite cars, & if they come up with anything that exites me in the future, I'll have no hesitation buying one.

Ricers don't bother me, I may not like them, but they can do anything they like with their cars as long as that makes them happy.

 

before i got my lexus, i owned a few hondas.. civic, del sol, integra.. as for family members i would guess we had most of the honda lineup.. hondas are great cars.

 

I regularly visit Acura/Lexus/Infiniti forums, and in each forum, a certain amount of "bashing" of the other company cars goes on. Probably to be expected.

That said, Lexus forums do tend to have an "it's a Lexus, so it's gonna be better" attitude; probably because Lexus is clearly above Infiniti and Acura as a marque. On the Acura forums, people always trump value, and on Infiniti forums, people call Lexuses grandma cars.

Don't even start on Bimmer forums... I don't even go in there anymore.

BTW, "ricers" is offensive, just as "watermelon people".

 

i have an ACURA RSX, i bought it cz i loved it.

 

I have respect for Honda. I have one.

To tell you the truth, I like Hondas more than Toyotas.
I would take a Civic over a Corolla anyday.
Prelude over a Celica
Accord over the Camry (I had a Camry)
Accord Coupe over the Solara any day.
CR-V over the RAV4 anyday.

I don't know, I find Hondas more appealing to me. Not sure why. I guess personal preference.

 

I guess those that bash honda's just have a louder voice.

 

Well, like I said, I don't bash Hondas themselves....they are excellent vehicles and rank among the best available for the money. But some of the people who MARKET them are clearly a bunch of A - - holes. If that offends some people on the forums here.....sorry, but I have to call it like I see it.
Also note that Honda is the ONLY Japanese firm selling in the American market to still offer a standard factory warranty of only 3 years / 36,000 miles bumper-to-bumper AND powertrain BOTH.

ALL of the other Japanese nameplates here......Toyota, Nissan, Subaru, Mazda, Lexus, Infiniti, Suzuki, Isuzu, and Mitsubishi.....even Honda's own corporate brother Acura...offer better warranties either time or mileage-wise.

 

well said...