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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 08:11 AM
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I guess this is the new Audi SUV?



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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 08:38 AM
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I remeber seeing that somewhere else on the web a long time ago, I think it's a bastard Lincoln concept. You can barely make out the Lincoln insignia on the chunky rear flank...Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

EDIT: Yeah, it's the Lincoln Aviator Concept. *shrug*
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 09:41 AM
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My strong opinion here, guys (and you can correct me if you think I'm wrong), is that since Audi already builds the All-Road AWD wagon that competes directly in size and price with the Volvo XC-70, this vehicle was obviously designed to compete directly with the Volvo XC-90.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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That is not it. I don't think. It will be called the Q7 and be Cayenne/Tourag based.
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That is not it. I don't think. It will be called the Q7 and be Cayenne/Tourag based.
So you don't think, then, that it is aimed directly at the XC-90? That, to me, would have been a no-brainer.

If it indeed just another version of the Cayenne / Touraeg, then it will probably cost more than the XC-90........especially if there is a Turbo version.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by genearch


Thanks genearch. Thats it.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 01:20 PM
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I'm not really feeling this one from Audi.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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I'm not really feeling this one from Audi.
Well, Richie, you commented on the Subaru BX-9's Alfa-like grille. These new Audi grilles, IMO, are ludicrous.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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Ah yes, what I posted I learned is the Lincoln Aviator concept.



That Audi Genearch posted - that is one hurlmobile.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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Well, Richie, you commented on the Subaru BX-9's Alfa-like grille. These new Audi grilles, IMO, are ludicrous.
Hahaha, I think audi thinks size matters.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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I thought they were doing away with the Aviator. If true, I think it'd be a mistake, as small(er) SUVs still have a needed place in the market. If they did away with the Navi and Cadillac with the Escalade, well, I'd die a happy man.

Audi needs an SUV, glad to see them bringing one to the market, much as I dislike them.

mmarshall, they're ditching the allroad. I'd imagine this new SUV is to combat the Touareg, XC90, M-class, X5, MDX, 9-7x, etc.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 02:22 PM
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There was a magazine article with a prototype Audi SUV (I remember it being mint green with off whtie interior) I wish I could remember the concept name. It looked similar to the model genearch posted, only more muscular, it was beautiful.
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Originally Posted by Incendiary
I thought they were doing away with the Aviator. If true, I think it'd be a mistake, as small(er) SUVs still have a needed place in the market. If they did away with the Navi and Cadillac with the Escalade, well, I'd die a happy man.

Audi needs an SUV, glad to see them bringing one to the market, much as I dislike them.

mmarshall, they're ditching the allroad. I'd imagine this new SUV is to combat the Touareg, XC90, M-class, X5, MDX, 9-7x, etc.
Yeah...the Lincoln rep told me Monday that the Aviator was going....poor sales. I agree, though, that dropping it is not just the solution. It didn't sell because it was priced too close to the Navigator, with the same looks as the Navigator but considerably smaller. Lincoln should, instead of axing it, just drop the price instead about $5000....it would do much better.

( Incidentally, the same mistake was made ten years ago, in the mid-1990's when the then-$40,000 twin-turbo Japanese high-performance sports cars like the Supra, RX-7, 300ZX, and 3000GT VR4 sales dried up in part due to overpricing. The prices SHOULD also have been dropped on THOSE cars, but the manufacturers foolishly chose to drop them from the American market instead). The rest is history.

Didn't hear anything about dropping the All-Road, but I'll take your word for it.

I disagree, however, that this new Audi is going to compete with the 9-7X. The others you mention....yes, they, like the Audi, are car-based. The 9-7X, though, being a truck-based rebadged Trail Blazer, is a completely different vehicle from all of the others. You saw it yourself the other night.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by D2-AUTOSPORT
There was a magazine article with a prototype Audi SUV (I remember it being mint green with off whtie interior) I wish I could remember the concept name. It looked similar to the model genearch posted, only more muscular, it was beautiful.
I think the Audi version of the Touareg/Cayenne was known as the Pikes Peak concept.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Yeah...the Lincoln rep told me Monday that the Aviator was going....poor sales. I agree, though, that dropping it is not just the solution. It didn't sell because it was priced too close to the Navigator, with the same looks as the Navigator but considerably smaller. Lincoln should, instead of axing it, just drop the price instead about $5000....it would do much better.

( Incidentally, the same mistake was made ten years ago, in the mid-1990's when the then-$40,000 twin-turbo Japanese high-performance sports cars like the Supra, RX-7, 300ZX, and 3000GT VR4 sales dried up in part due to overpricing. The prices SHOULD also have been dropped on THOSE cars, but the manufacturers foolishly chose to drop them from the American market instead). The rest is history.

Didn't hear anything about dropping the All-Road, but I'll take your word for it.

I disagree, however, that this new Audi is going to compete with the 9-7X. The others you mention....yes, they, like the Audi, are car-based. The 9-7X, though, being a truck-based rebadged Trail Blazer, is a completely different vehicle from all of the others. You saw it yourself the other night.
I think people who shop for SUVs tend to shop more based on size than on car or truck-based frames.

allroad is gone after this year. If I can find reference to the fact, I'll post.
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