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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 11:40 PM
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I was searching the net, and they don't really show very many pics of Lexus. All i can see now a days is, Mercedes, BMW, Bentley, Maybach (very nice), and SUV's. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON? Lexus has always been top notch, and will always be top notch! Do you think it's losing it's status?

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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 11:46 PM
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I was searching the net, and they don't really show very many pics of Lexus. All i can see now a days is, Mercedes, BMW, Bentley, Maybach (very nice), and SUV's. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON? Lexus has always been top notch, and will always be top notch! Do you think it's losing it's status?

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Lexus is not losing status. The competiton has just gotten VERY VERY thick and have brought some incredible new products to the market.
Also "Bling Bling" has elevated to super cars like Bentleys and Maybachs etc.

Cars bought by most celebritites and shown in mags and t.v are the most expensive ones. There used to be only a handful of models. Now there are TONS of expensive cars to choose from (100k plus).
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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I guess your right, cuz now you don't see or hear much about even Mercedes and Lexus, it's Caddy SUV's, Bently's, Roles Royce, and Maybach now. Kinda sucks, because Lexus is still very much a VIP car.

Off topic: That is my favorite quote by Michael Jordan.

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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:02 AM
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-not necessarily u heard them hip hop guys rappin bout' 'lex', aka kayne west, fabulous and on and on ?.....

At least lexus is more VIP then bling bling- that's a good thing even if they are less popular.

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I guess your right, cuz now you don't see or hear much about even Mercedes and Lexus, it's Caddy SUV's, Bently's, Roles Royce, and Maybach now. Kinda sucks, because Lexus is still very much a VIP car.

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Off my head in 2000, you had the S 600, 750 il, the Rolls and Bentley that were the same, 1 Lambo, 3 Ferraris.
2004
S600, S55, S65, SL 55, SL 65, CL 55, CL 65
Rolls Phantom
4 Bentleys
2 Lambos, Murchialago, Gallardo
4 Ferraris, Enzo, 360, 430 now, 456 now Scaletti, 575 Marenello
Maybach
760 il
Porsche GT
GT2 and GT3
Pagani Zonda
Audi A8 W-12 can hit 100k

Lexus has yet to offer a 100k car though they are coming.

MJ quote, I love. Got the poster too.

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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:19 AM
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can't wait to see when Lexus throws out a 100,000 plus car.... it would really be buzzworthy. About under-representation w/ Lexus..... well I guess thats the bling factor. Everybodies into the Bling Bling and I for one am glad they are not blingin' out the Lexus. Well not too much.... Although I'm starting to see a trend w/ the old bling going less blng and going more aggressive in the looks department. Only a few but they'll catch on soon enough... the more you educate the more I think "wtf is up w/ bling"

who knows though.... we might start seeing' Platinum FMIC's and Daimond ball bearing Turbo's .....damn that actually sounds pretty cool. I'm calling MTV!!!!
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well if you take out the VIP mag in japan, you still see plenty of toyota and nissan in there

like sick said the market is definitely a lot more compeittive here. and we are actually observative the front end wave of the VIP hit. three yrs ago no one cares about VIP i can tell you, they were talking about sport cars, coupe, etc... it's not under these two yrs that they start to pay attention to bigger super luxury sedans, and how nice they are modded.

it's an interesting market. honestly i am happy to be in it
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well if you take out the VIP mag in japan, you still see plenty of toyota and nissan in there

like sick said the market is definitely a lot more compeittive here. and we are actually observative the front end wave of the VIP hit. three yrs ago no one cares about VIP i can tell you, they were talking about sport cars, coupe, etc... it's not under these two yrs that they start to pay attention to bigger super luxury sedans, and how nice they are modded.

it's an interesting market. honestly i am happy to be in it
And i too. Well as much as i can afford to be Lol. I agree the the style changed over the years, i've been a car buff for a while now, and even through the years, Lexus GS has always been my favorite car. And don't get me wrong, Bentley GT, would love to have one, GT3 would kill to have one, but they just aren't the same cars now are they?! lol. There's something about the design, the sleekness, the comfort, the ride, and just the right amount of power off the bat, that not too many other cars can offer for under 100K. And not one under 100K i would trade in my GS for.

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And i too. Well as much as i can afford to be Lol. I agree the the style changed over the years, i've been a car buff for a while now, and even through the years, Lexus GS has always been my favorite car. And don't get me wrong, Bentley GT, would love to have one, GT3 would kill to have one, but they just aren't the same cars now are they?! lol. There's something about the design, the sleekness, the comfort, the ride, and just the right amount of power off the bat, that not too many other cars can offer for under 100K. And not one under 100K i would trade in my GS for.

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The Lex is nice, but I'll take an M5 (not even the upcoming V10, I'd rather have the V8s understated design from the previous generation).

For under $100k, give me 2003 M5 and I'd be happy.

Cross just over a $100k, and I'll take the 911 Turbo.

I love these daily driver performance cars.
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I couldn't care less how VIP lexus is perceived as. I care about the quality, comfort, and reliability. If less people like Lexus, all the better for me because that means cheaper prices when new and much cheaper prices when used. But as it stands now, I don't see resale dropping that much at all for lexus cars, so I think that may just be the perception from listening to the latest lyrics in rap videos, and not watching the actual used car market place.

When every day people ask what kind of car I drive, I usually say a 4-door car made by Toyota. It's the truth, and it keeps people from focusing on what I have rather than who I am. I bought my car for what it is, and not for the L on the hood nor for the 'status' associated with that L.
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Originally posted by Threxx
When every day people ask what kind of car I drive, I usually say a 4-door car made by Toyota. It's the truth, and it keeps people from focusing on what I have rather than who I am. I bought my car for what it is, and not for the L on the hood nor for the 'status' associated with that L.
That is what I say too.
Some aren't so easily accepting of the answer and I've been asked, "Does it have a Toyota or Lexus emblem on it?" When it becomes this specific, I've found that it has been asked by a fellow Lexus owner.

Getting back to the VIP thing, the local car nuts are going for the Cadillac products in my eyes. Lot's of bling with huge chromes or spinners, wayyyy overdone stereo systems and the very subtle "DUB" stickers placed to be seen from every angle.

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Originally posted by Threxx
I couldn't care less how VIP lexus is perceived as. I care about the quality, comfort, and reliability. If less people like Lexus, all the better for me because that means cheaper prices when new and much cheaper prices when used. But as it stands now, I don't see resale dropping that much at all for lexus cars, so I think that may just be the perception from listening to the latest lyrics in rap videos, and not watching the actual used car market place.

When every day people ask what kind of car I drive, I usually say a 4-door car made by Toyota. It's the truth, and it keeps people from focusing on what I have rather than who I am. I bought my car for what it is, and not for the L on the hood nor for the 'status' associated with that L.
I agree. It doesn't matter to me whether the public eyes see it as VIP or not, i guess my question was just too general. I have the same focus, as far as what i care about and what is important to me, as you. I was just searching the web, looking at car photos and found it hard to believe that for every 1 lexus i was seeing 6 C-class mercedes and 4 SUV's. I was stunned! Personally, GS ES SC LS even IS (even tho i'm not a big fan) is a much better car then any C class mercedes.

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Check this out ..


Consumers' Most Wanted Vehicles for 2004
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/consu....bestcars..2.*

Sedan Under $45,000: BMW 5 Series
Sedan Over $45,000: Audi A8


Editors' Most Wanted Vehicles for 2004
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/mostwanted/2004/

Sedan Under $45,000: BMW 5 Series
Sedan Over $45,000: Audi A8 L
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:26 PM
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How unfortunate that Lexus wasn't on any of that list, anywhere! Have friends who own Bimmers and Mercedes, and i can honestly say, that i would never have a BMW 3-5-7 series over my Lexus. Maybe it's just a ME thing, but i absolutely love my car, and can't say with as much time, effort, and money that i've put into it, that i would trade if for any of them!

Unless it was the Aston Vanquish V12. Would take that over any Exotics out there. What a beautiful machine!

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Lexus is still a great car. They just haven't had a lot of new product lately. RX Hybrid, '06 GS, and new IS should help build the hype again.
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