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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 11:00 PM
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For goodness sakes as much as the dude is blasted, all designers are giving cars the "bangle" butt.
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised the 100k Lexus looks like a Maybah. Imagine a Lexus Maybach for 100k? OMG it would be incredible.
Then imagine the better quality of the Lex
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by Richie
Then imagine the better quality of the Lex
Please ...

Have you seen the inside of a Maybach (either wheelbase)?

Lexus is the absolute best at mass-producing high quality cars;

But I have a feeling that Toyota will never match the traditional British and German hand-built's in either exclusivity/desirability or quality.

There's just no way they can restructure, aquire the craftsmen/women - the expertise - the tradition, and offer the same quality car at a lower price which is what it would (will) take for these cars to move.

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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by whipimpin
Please ...

Have you seen the inside of a Maybach (either wheelbase)?

Lexus is the absolute best at mass-producing high quality cars;

But I have a feeling that Toyota will never match the traditional British and German hand-built's in either exclusivity/desirability or quality.

There's just no way they can restructure, aquire the craftsmen/women - the expertise - the tradition, and offer the same quality car at a lower price which is what it would (will) take for these cars to move.

M.
The British have handbuilt Rolls Royce & Bentley cars for decades, but Mercedes have not made hand-built bodies for ultra lux custom cars like a Maybach for decades until they revive the Maybach name just recently to compete with RR, yet all of a sudden they have no problems acquiring the craftsmen/women, the expertise & tradition to handbuild a $300K superlux sedan to compete with Rolls Royce.

The problem with Lexus is not with acquiring the craftsmanship, but they have to build up the prestige of the name much further before even considering such a move. Finishing the interior of a superlux sedan is not much different from making ultra high end custom furniture as I see it, the craftmanship & materials are available if you have the budget to do it. The thing is they certainly can't even dream of selling a $300K car under th Lexus name, even BMW have to acquire Rolls Royce , & Mercedes has to revive the Maybach name to compete in this segment, obviously thinking that the Mercedes name does not have enough clout to compete with the Rolls Royce name at the $300K + level.

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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by SexySC
The British have handbuilt Rolls Royce & Bentley cars for decades, but Mercedes have not made hand-built bodies for ultra lux custom cars like a Maybach for decades until they revive the Maybach name just recently to compete with RR, yet all of a sudden they have no problems acquiring the craftsmen/women, the expertise & tradition to handbuild a $300K superlux sedan to compete with Rolls Royce.

The problem with Lexus is not with acquiring the craftsmanship, but they have to build up the prestige of the name much further before even considering such a move. Finishing the interior of a superlux sedan is not much different from making ultra high end custom furniture as I see it, the craftmanship & materials are available if you have the budget to do it. The thing is they certainly can't even dream of selling a $300K car under th Lexus name, even BMW have to acquire Rolls Royce , & Mercedes has to revive the Maybach name to compete in this segment, obviously thinking that the Mercedes name does not have enough clout to compete with the Rolls Royce name at the $300K + level.
i totally agree i think the maximum vakue that lexus could go for their flagship in these years would be not more than 110K. eventho toyota sells century very well over in JDM market, they need to build up more prestige image of lexus brand or totally introduce a whole new line up. if they ever make one, i have no doubt that it will be way better than RR or bently. it just not they cant make it, it is just that it's not the right time to make it yet.
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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You guys are forgetting something.....this car would not be going up against the Maybach. It will be going up against the upper tier of the S-class(S500, S600) and the BMW 760Li, Audi A8L, and Jaguar Super XJ.
Due to this it's kinda pointless to compare the interior materials, craftsmanship to that of a Maybach. There is no way a $100K Lexus is going to have the interior of a $300K+ Rolls Royce, Bentley or Maybach.
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 10:51 AM
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I've heard the HLS will be in next year's Paris Autoshow.
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