Self-Driving Vehicles
Racer
Joined: Mar 2019
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From: WA
Nobody because its stupid. If anyone full throttles an Encore and aims it at a building with driver aids on, the car will most likely not brake at all before hitting the wall. A Tesla won't magically do the same thing ESPECIALLY when the driver has control of the car. FSD and Autopilot won't aim at a building because it specifically is designed to keep in a lane. We don't need an investigation to tell us that the idiot driver was the dumbass who rammed his Tesla into a building because he was seen accelerating to beat a red light. Soon as you hit that accelerator with any amount of force, the driver aids simply disengage.
Lexus Test Driver
Joined: Jan 2007
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From: CA
No. I don't think any driver aid system can do that. A Tesla has very limited set of actions that interrupt the driver. It can emergency brake for you if it detects another car in front has stopped and you will collide with it. It can help you avoid other cars, debris or animals on the road. It won't stop you from pure stupidity like ramming a building. Its a driver aid...not Skynet.
Racer
Joined: Mar 2019
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From: WA
No. I don't think any driver aid system can do that. A Tesla has very limited set of actions that interrupt the driver. It can emergency brake for you if it detects another car in front has stopped and you will collide with it. It can help you avoid other cars, debris or animals on the road. It won't stop you from pure stupidity like ramming a building. Its a driver aid...not Skynet.
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: Sep 2010
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From: Alberta
Some people may be shocked to learn Tesla is trying to make it so the car recognizes all situations and responds accordingly. Of course the negative nancy's will say Elon is a fraud he hates you and your children wants you dead, FSD is killing whales and birds.
Any crash you walk away from unharmed is a win. One thing that makes me rage is news outlets constantly report crashes but never tell you how they happened and how we can learn from them and avoid making the same mistakes. Why are we not teaching people to be better drivers? I guess that's why it's necessary to make the car intervene in human stupidity.
Any crash you walk away from unharmed is a win. One thing that makes me rage is news outlets constantly report crashes but never tell you how they happened and how we can learn from them and avoid making the same mistakes. Why are we not teaching people to be better drivers? I guess that's why it's necessary to make the car intervene in human stupidity.
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: Oct 2003
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From: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 94,202
Likes: 218
From: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Any crash you walk away from unharmed is a win. One thing that makes me rage is news outlets constantly report crashes but never tell you how they happened and how we can learn from them and avoid making the same mistakes. Why are we not teaching people to be better drivers? I guess that's why it's necessary to make the car intervene in human stupidity.
Lexus Fanatic
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From: Alberta
Racer
Joined: Mar 2019
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From: WA
They don't want to learn. All that matters to them is playing on their phones while driving. It's insane how many people I see looking down every 3 seconds because they can't wait to send a snapchat picture when they get home in 10 minutes.
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: May 2012
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From: Maryland
Wrong on most counts.
First, I am not the loudest voice on CL about anything....in fact, on some matters, I am one of the quietest. Second, GM did design a system that works....at least for any normal sane driver. Third, I have never stated that I am completely against driver aids....in fact, some of the earliest driver-aids go back to 1912, with Cadillac's invention of the electric self-starter. Fourth, blame in tis specific accident probably cannot be placed until the investigation is done.
First, I am not the loudest voice on CL about anything....in fact, on some matters, I am one of the quietest. Second, GM did design a system that works....at least for any normal sane driver. Third, I have never stated that I am completely against driver aids....in fact, some of the earliest driver-aids go back to 1912, with Cadillac's invention of the electric self-starter. Fourth, blame in tis specific accident probably cannot be placed until the investigation is done.GM's system works no better or worse than anybody elses. The point is, those systems aren't designed to stop a driver from running into something at full throttle. They don't take over driving from the driver.
Lexus Test Driver
Joined: Jan 2007
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From: CA
You absolutely were the loudest anti-crossover vs sedan voice on CL for a long time...until you got one yourself.
GM's system works no better or worse than anybody elses. The point is, those systems aren't designed to stop a driver from running into something at full throttle. They don't take over driving from the driver.
GM's system works no better or worse than anybody elses. The point is, those systems aren't designed to stop a driver from running into something at full throttle. They don't take over driving from the driver.
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: May 2012
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From: Maryland
It's stupid to single out Tesla or any other company, and report on crashes caused by stupidity. That being said, it is good to report on accidents that happen when self driving systems are active, maybe someone in the government will start paying attention and get this nonsense banned.
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: May 2012
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From: Maryland
It's stupid to single out Tesla or any other company, and report on crashes caused by stupidity. That being said, it is good to report on accidents that happen when self driving systems are active, maybe someone in the government will start paying attention and get this nonsense banned.
I know. This particular crash was probably reported on because it was absolutely crazy, lucky nobody got killed in the building. Crashes like this get reported all the time, not just Tesla.