Self-Driving Vehicles
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Good point. Kids on a school bus can often be anything BUT well-behaved. Robots can't supervise a bunch of brats.
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The human mind is superior? less than 1% of humans have superior minds. the rest are just riding on their laurels and imagining themselves to be that 1% 
however, an alternative for the special needs kid is a small vehicle specifically for them so they don't have to worry about not getting off at the right spot because that's the ONLY place it will go. no supervisor needed. and the car itself can watch the kid, and if any signs of distress are detected, the car can change routes to appropriate specialists / care giver.
maybe not today, but they will be able to. easily. 5 years ago we couldn't talk to our phones except to another human or voice mail. now we can easily talk to our phones to have them do all sorts of things without need for humans at all. and amazon echo, a cloud-connected speaker employing voice recognition, is a huge hit.
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Bitkahuna brings up a point about maybe having automatic supervisors on school buses in the future. Fine.....if they can adequately develop and perfect them. I, though, tend to be one not to count chickens before they are hatched.
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Well, obviously, the ideal situation is for kids to act like little angels all the time. But we don't live in perfect world....that just doesn't happen. I also went through 12 grades of school myself (not including college), and saw how kids can bully one another. Heck, even here, on this forum, we need adult supervision sometimes....they're called moderators.
Bitkahuna brings up a point about maybe having automatic supervisors on school buses in the future. Fine.....if they can adequately develop and perfect them. I, though, tend to be one not to count chickens before they are hatched.
Bitkahuna brings up a point about maybe having automatic supervisors on school buses in the future. Fine.....if they can adequately develop and perfect them. I, though, tend to be one not to count chickens before they are hatched.
My point is that the kids need to release their energy every now and then. Clampdown for every little act will only result in the rubber band effect.
Growing up, my school bus was the public transport buses. Only the driver. No supervisors. Nothing on toward happened because the kids learnt to live as a group in the bus.
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Will kids born today ever need to learn how to drive a car?
It's 2017.
Fast forward to 2033. Kids born in 2017 will be 16 years old.
Will they still have the need to learn how to drive a car? Or will autonomous driving be prevalent?
Fast forward to 2033. Kids born in 2017 will be 16 years old.
Will they still have the need to learn how to drive a car? Or will autonomous driving be prevalent?
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Autonomous driving will be prevalent but will not completely displace drivers or cars driven by humans. Please start a poll
Even if they did learn driving, there will be so many driving aids that their skills would not come close to today's 16 year olds'. Who knows, they may need other types of skills to be competent "drivers".
I have even heard that windshields may be replaced by HiRes monitors, so folks may guide their vehicles thru a virtual reality type environment rather than actually seeing what's outside the vehicle. Sounds strange....
Even if they did learn driving, there will be so many driving aids that their skills would not come close to today's 16 year olds'. Who knows, they may need other types of skills to be competent "drivers".
I have even heard that windshields may be replaced by HiRes monitors, so folks may guide their vehicles thru a virtual reality type environment rather than actually seeing what's outside the vehicle. Sounds strange....
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I don't think autonomous driving will be universal by then...or even prevalent. There are just too many roadblocks (no pun intended) in its way, including huge liability questions and the possibility of terrorists or even some smart kids hacking into the systems.
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I agree, the danger of hacking into a vehicle's engine management system is very very real. It is an issue right now, why wait another 16 years? Most manufacturers have Apps to remote start vehicles. It can't be too difficult to hack into that system to mess with the starting system. BTW, haven't tried this but what happens if you push the "Start/Stop" button when the vehicle is in motion? There may be a way to inactivate the engine (I believe the "kill" button to stop car thieves only works on parked vehicles) and stop a moving car. That would be terrifying.
IMO, in 16 years, many of the dangers with smart cars and hacking will have been mitigated. Liability issues are already being discussed; I am sure there will be laws in place by then.
IMO, in 16 years, many of the dangers with smart cars and hacking will have been mitigated. Liability issues are already being discussed; I am sure there will be laws in place by then.
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BTW, haven't tried this but what happens if you push the "Start/Stop" button when the vehicle is in motion? There may be a way to inactivate the engine (I believe the "kill" button to stop car thieves only works on parked vehicles) and stop a moving car. That would be terrifying.
