Panty wagon!!

Gawd that's............. um................ YEAH!

 

I don't understand this link. The 2002 7-series was the new design. LexusLuver, what exactly is your point here?

 

even so, LS430 YTD sales are up 72%, the 7-series is down.

 

Sounds like what some of you guys are trying to say ( and I'll say it in plain English ) is that post-Bangle BMW sales ARE going to be screwed...but only with the real BMW enthusiasts. Unfortunately, there are are a lot of people ot there who will buy a vehicle ( yes, even one of Bangle's ) based on image only, without really looking into what they are getting, and those computer junkies who like to play with joysticks.....like the I-Drive. So BMW sales overall may or may not be screwed in the long run, but they have DEFINITELY gone down the tubes with real BMW enthusiasts.......that is a no-brainer.

 

So your post was meant to point out that the re-done LS430 sales are up and the current 7 series sales are down. Right?

 

and 5-series sales didnt go up after a redisign.
actually I think 7-series sales would probably wouldnt have changed either.

BMW sales are off 1200 units and 6200 w/o the X3 and 6series.
Audi is down 1002
MB down 2400
VW down 17800
Lincoln down 107

Are up:

Cadillac 5000
Lexus 13200
Acura 10000
Infiniti 5000

Im quoting an outside source so the numbers might not be exact, there still is a general pattern.
Lexus seems to have secured their SUV market, I think they'll make huge gains in the car segment in a few yrs. Lexus has grown some 20% this yr w/o any halo cars.

 

This is getting a bit ridiculous...I think, for a car capable of only 155mph governed, that 7 gears provide only more shifts. Heck, even at 185, 6 is enough. Has it really come down to "I have more gears, nanneenanneebooboo"? Bangle is a mess, sheesh.