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Old Yesterday | 06:49 PM
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I would never buy or drive a Ferrari, but one feature I've always liked about them is the gated manual shifter. You KNOW what gear you are in (or are trying to shift into) by the position of the shift-lever in the slots. No guesswork or accidentally getting in the wrong gear.

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Why would you never drive a Ferrari - they are amazing to drive and very easy to control.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Double-clutching was one way to match engine/transmission RPM...another classic way was with heel-and-toe shifts. Both are somewhat awkward for many people (even a lot of experienced drivers) and not easy to master...hence synchros and the electronic RPM-matching feature. As I recall (but I'm not 100% sure), Nissan allowed the RPM-matching feature in the 370Z to be turned off if the driver did not want it.

As a teen-ager, learned to drive a stick in the late 60s, when some cars had synchros on all forward gears....others lacked them in first gear. I found that out the hard way, on a Plymouth Valiant three-on-the-tree that had synchros only on second and third. I buzzed through the gears just fine....until the first stop sign, where I pushed the clutch in around 10 MPH or so and tried to downshift into first...only to be greeted with a nice crunch LOL.
just like many things in life, driving manual is nothing special, it's all about practice.

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I’m surprised no automaker besides Koenigsegg has come out with a transmission that can be a manual and go into “auto” when needed like in traffic.

I have to say my Mach 1 is a pleasure to drive and to me the best /easiest manual i have experienced. It also has the auto blip feature if needed.

First time i saw one in person this Sunday
that's good point. with today's technology it shouldn't be hard to do. maybe just all the extra cost that makes it not an appeal proposal to most manufacturers.

Originally Posted by mmarshall
I would never buy or drive a Ferrari, but one feature I've always liked about them is the gated manual shifter. You KNOW what gear you are in (or are trying to shift into) by the position of the shift-lever in the slots. No guesswork or accidentally getting in the wrong gear.
if you have to look at the shifter when you are driving, you have much bigger problem than not knowing what gear you are getting into
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Old Yesterday | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Double-clutching was one way to match engine/transmission RPM...another classic way was with heel-and-toe shifts. Both are somewhat awkward for many people (even a lot of experienced drivers) and not easy to master...hence synchros and the electronic RPM-matching feature. As I recall (but I'm not 100% sure), Nissan allowed the RPM-matching feature in the 370Z to be turned off if the driver did not want it.

As a teen-ager, learned to drive a stick in the late 60s, when some cars had synchros on all forward gears....others lacked them in first gear. I found that out the hard way, on a Plymouth Valiant three-on-the-tree that had synchros only on second and third. I buzzed through the gears just fine....until the first stop sign, where I pushed the clutch in around 10 MPH or so and tried to downshift into first...only to be greeted with a nice crunch LOL.
Heal toe isn't for anything other than performance under braking, non-synchro transmissions use the double clutch to match shaft speeds but you can also float this gear to gear without any clutch input at all if you are good. Floating is also possible on synchro transmissions but it's not needed and much harder

I can only manage a float here and there but have done it, the ones I am most proud of was in my S4 when first taking it out in FL after the fix from 3-4 over 100, did the same racing a C43 is the 23 bypass tunnel. Felt absolutely awesome getting the timing perfect and not touching the clutch at all
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Originally Posted by rominl
that's good point. with today's technology it shouldn't be hard to do. maybe just all the extra cost that makes it not an appeal proposal to most manufacturers.
I think ppl would pay the extra $$$ “to have their cake and eat it also”
Hopefully Porsche and/or Aston introduces this tech.
The other issue is might be emissions and safety tech that’s not compatible with manuals.

All these automakers stopped investing in manual development bec there was no demand but now it has increased especially with younger enthusiasts.
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
I think ppl would pay the extra $$$ “to have their cake and eat it also”
Hopefully Porsche and/or Aston introduces this tech.
The other issue is might be emissions and safety tech that’s not compatible with manuals.

All these automakers stopped investing in manual development bec there was no demand but now it has increased especially with younger enthusiasts.
Hmmm, an Aston V12 with a true manual trans that has an override/automated slave syl and selector sounds quite amazing and aspirational.

Hell that would be outright convenient since anyone could drive it if needed and you can use the automated when you are in traffic as you mentioned. Plus you would be able to always have a mechanical override
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Old Yesterday | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
I think ppl would pay the extra $$$ “to have their cake and eat it also”
Hopefully Porsche and/or Aston introduces this tech.
The other issue is might be emissions and safety tech that’s not compatible with manuals.

All these automakers stopped investing in manual development bec there was no demand but now it has increased especially with younger enthusiasts.
i surely hope so but i admit i am not too optimistic
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Old Yesterday | 09:44 PM
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I can't imagine a super car with a manual.
My BMW Boxtet had one but it did hit that hard when dropping the clutch.

I drove with a friend one time that had a BMW M3 and every shift when he dropped the clutch It felt life a light punch in my back it was hitting so hard.

Maybe he had it tuned and sport seats but you could feel it hit it the seat.
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Old Yesterday | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Margate330
I can't imagine a super car with a manual.
My BMW Boxtet had one but it did hit that hard when dropping the clutch.

I drove with a friend one time that had a BMW M3 and every shift when he dropped the clutch It felt life a light punch in my back it was hitting so hard.

Maybe he had it tuned and sport seats but you could feel it hit it the seat.
Oh that's what it's supposed to feel like if you are really going for it!
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