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You don't feel that removes a huge part of the drive?
At first like 15 years ago with the 370Z is felt weird. Today I think I’ve gotten used to it quite a bit and almost expect it in manual cars. I think it doesn’t detract from the experience. Mind tli nothing like a heavy manual in a 1990s car with a **** load of torque wrestling you.
It’s wild to think how racing drivers were decades ago. Respect
At first like 15 years ago with the 370Z is felt weird. Today I think I’ve gotten used to it quite a bit and almost expect it in manual cars. I think it doesn’t detract from the experience. Mind tli nothing like a heavy manual in a 1990s car with a **** load of torque wrestling you.
It’s wild to think how racing drivers were decades ago. Respect
Ive used and it just feels like I have to do nothing at all with the throttle anymore (I don't) and the experience of controlling the engine for seamless up/downshifts is just gone.
It feels almost like a game where the clutch and stick is nothing more than a gear selection device you just slap into the next slot or whatever and the car manages the majority of the event for you. Aka just like using paddle shifters but now you have to just do something with your left foot other than resting it on the floor somewhere.
I didn’t think I would like auto rev match till i drove cars with it and love it. Love a manual without it too.
Same. I figured I would turn it off and leave it off. But I love it. There's no need to heel/toe in traffic. Not like I really can anyway with a size 15.
Same. I figured I would turn it off and leave it off. But I love it. There's no need to heel/toe in traffic. Not like I really can anyway with a size 15.
Seems like you always were someone who liked to put your foot down.
I have a friend who has a manual Miata, and he says nobody at the dealer knows how to drive it. He has to drive it into the service area etc unless one of the 1 or 2 people who work there are there.
He has 5 daughters...and his wife...and none know how to drive a stick...which he loves because nobody but him can drive it.
Think about it though, how would I even teach my kids to drive a stick? Where would I find one to teach them on? My wife can't drive one either. Only reason I can is my mom had one.
my friend's sister in HS had an old Pinto; we took it out one day and my friend (who didn't have his license yet) taught me.
Gears were not intended for grinding. Synchros were invented for a reason. Ditto for the Rev-Match feature.
I understand that but how else will someone max their manual shifting skills without pushing the car hard and learning exactly the minimum distance and speed required to smash the clutch and change gears. Lol
That fine edge of pedal depression and speed and motion of gear selection with the clutch without grinding the gears is the sweetspot.
Or we can drive it like a farm tractor and not worry about it. haha
I learned to drive manual on my BRZ which is great transmission but not easy to drive considering it has no torque lol
I drove the new manual Lotus Emira this weekend and I didn’t like it at all.
The pedal box is tiny, the clutch is really heavy and very long travel. The shifting action was nice and easy to place. Relatively low rev range of about 6k and doesn’t have a rewarding sound.
I really want to drive the new Carrera T with the 6 speed manual and new Nismo Z manual.
I understand that but how else will someone max their manual shifting skills without pushing the car hard and learning exactly the minimum distance and speed required to smash the clutch and change gears. Lol
That fine edge of pedal depression and speed and motion of gear selection with the clutch without grinding the gears is the sweetspot.
Or we can drive it like a farm tractor and not worry about it. haha
Synchros were also invented for potential safety reasons. Drivers need to keep their eyes and focus on the road.......not trying to constantly fiddle with engine/transmission RPM-matching or how to use one's foot to work more than one pedal at once.
In 2018 I was eager to go back to a manual and tried to buy an Accord Sport with a 6-speed, absolutely none within a 500 mile radius, so settled for a Civic Si which only comes with a 6 speed. It was fun at first, but after a year of commuting and several trips to SoCal....I had enough and sold it
One thing I will say. I could left the keys in them and nobody would steal it. My kids took one look at the 6 speed and said "what's that papa?" 🤣
In 2018 I was eager to go back to a manual and tried to buy an Accord Sport with a 6-speed, absolutely none within a 500 mile radius, so settled for a Civic Si which only comes with a 6 speed. It was fun at first, but after a year of commuting and several trips to SoCal....I had enough and sold it
One thing I will say. I could left the keys in them and nobody would steal it. My kids took one look at the 6 speed and said "what's that papa?" 🤣
EV's are just as bad.
How would someone like me who's never drove one know where to begin?
Where's the keys?
Oh there isn't any, need to download the app.
What the hell is this big mammoth size screen?
And, if I push a wrong button what horrors will happen?
It's scares me just to think about it, no thanks.
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I'm starting to understand why the youngsters don't know how to drive manuals just like I wouldn't know how to drive an EV.
I'd need FSD for the first few months to get thru the learning curve. Lol
Driving a typical EV is probably simpler than driving a typical ICE. Basically turn the electrical system on and off with a button or switch, steer, press the throttle-pedal, and brake...that's about it. No shifting, and in some cases, even little or no braking wirh your foot, as the engine slows the car for you when you get off the throttle....Regenerative braking.
Also, an electric motor has LOTS of torque at low RPMs...far more than equivalent ICEs of comparable engine size.
