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Old Yesterday | 12:41 PM
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Facebook marketplace special, drive it for a month or 3 to get everyone trained then resell it.
But honestly...why? When are my kids going to have to drive a manual? Never.
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
In 2018 I was eager to go back to a manual and tried to buy an Accord Sport with a 6-speed, absolutely none within a 500 mile radius, so settled for a Civic Si which only comes with a 6 speed. It was fun at first, but after a year of commuting and several trips to SoCal....I had enough and sold it



One thing I will say. I could left the keys in them and nobody would steal it. My kids took one look at the 6 speed and said "what's that papa?" 🤣
Nice lol!

I have left my Jetta running multiple times going into stores the same logic, almost no one will be able to move it.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
But honestly...why? When are my kids going to have to drive a manual? Never.
Same reason we still teach them how to do basic math and spelling right? Both of those are unneeded these days with phones doing everything for you...
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Nice lol!

I have left my Jetta running multiple times going into stores the same logic, almost no one will be able to move it.

countless videos like this but always satisfying when they give up!
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
https://youtu.be/1S9putayloM?t=10

countless videos like this but always satisfying when they give up!
LoL with only 3 percent take rate for manuals, it's the best anti-theft system on the market
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Same reason we still teach them how to do basic math and spelling right? Both of those are unneeded these days with phones doing everything for you...
wait - we no longer need to know how to spell or do math?
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
LoL with only 3 percent take rate for manuals, it's the best anti-theft system on the market
Best part is I don't even care! Full coverage on it is under $38 a month, go ahead, steal it.....you will stall out within a mile and I get a payout!
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Originally Posted by tex2670
wait - we no longer need to know how to spell or do math?
Do you use autocorrect or a calculator app? Or are you doing it all manually?
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Told my son his first car will be a manual and it’s not up for discussion.

We did the same for our son, made sure he learned to drive in a manual. By the time it came to our other kiddo, they were not interested. Oh well. At least we taught one of them.

The whole purpose was… if they were to ever have to drive in a “situation”, that they knew how to drive both stick and automatic. I don’t think the kiddo that didn’t learn to drive a stick will ever be put in that situation now, so it’s all good.



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Same reason we still teach them how to do basic math and spelling right? Both of those are unneeded these days with phones doing everything for you...
Not a reasonable comparison. Spelling and math are part of training your brain to think and learn, we also don't know what kids will want to do when they grow up...they may be engineers or other STEM professionals for whom math is important.

Driving a manual is like riding a horse. At one time we all needed to know how to ride horses...we don't anymore. We used to need to know how to start a fire...we don't anymore. Manual transmissions are just an antiquated technology that people use because they WANT to, not because they NEED to. My wife for instance is 44 and she has never needed to drive a car with a manual, and for our kids it would be even less likely they would ever need to do that. So no in this day and age nobody needs to learn to drive one.
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If the **** hits the fan, learning how to drive a stick isn't rocket science. I got the hang of it in like 15 minutes of practice.
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Agreed...
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i think it's human nature that they stick to the eras they are most prime/used to. for a lot of us it was when manual transmissions mean having synchros but with no hill hold or rev match. older generations would look at us and say please.... why synchros when there is double clutching.

all these new features help little here and there but the main thing is it's still manual transmission. i think the fun factor is still there.

the pdk in my gt2 is nothing short of amazing from performance and smoothness point of view, however i'd be lying if i say i don't miss a stick shift at all.
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Originally Posted by rominl
i think it's human nature that they stick to the eras they are most prime/used to. for a lot of us it was when manual transmissions mean having synchros but with no hill hold or rev match. older generations would look at us and say please.... why synchros when there is double clutching.
Double-clutching was one way to match engine/transmission RPM...another classic way was with heel-and-toe shifts. Both are somewhat awkward for many people (even a lot of experienced drivers) and not easy to master...hence synchros and the electronic RPM-matching feature. As I recall (but I'm not 100% sure), Nissan allowed the RPM-matching feature in the 370Z to be turned off if the driver did not want it.

As a teen-ager, learned to drive a stick in the late 60s, when some cars had synchros on all forward gears....others lacked them in first gear. I found that out the hard way, on a Plymouth Valiant three-on-the-tree that had synchros only on second and third. I buzzed through the gears just fine....until the first stop sign, where I pushed the clutch in around 10 MPH or so and tried to downshift into first...only to be greeted with a nice crunch LOL.

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Originally Posted by rominl
i think it's human nature that they stick to the eras they are most prime/used to. for a lot of us it was when manual transmissions mean having synchros but with no hill hold or rev match. older generations would look at us and say please.... why synchros when there is double clutching.

all these new features help little here and there but the main thing is it's still manual transmission. i think the fun factor is still there.

the pdk in my gt2 is nothing short of amazing from performance and smoothness point of view, however i'd be lying if i say i don't miss a stick shift at all.
I’m surprised no automaker besides Koenigsegg has come out with a transmission that can be a manual and go into “auto” when needed like in traffic.

I have to say my Mach 1 is a pleasure to drive and to me the best /easiest manual i have experienced. It also has the auto blip feature if needed.

First time i saw one in person this Sunday



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