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Old May 12, 2026 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Framestead
what are the other factors?
A number of them. Food and crop shortages from bad weather and/or crop-diseases, increasing demand for more-costly-to-produce organic foods, the increasing costs of running the grocery stores themselves, and higher electricity-prices for food-refrigeration, to name a few.
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
its common sense that rising gas prices cause higher food prices.
it is one factor, but, as I pointed out, there are numerous others as well. Grocery-price-inflation has been continuously high for the last 5+ years, even when gas prices were going both up and down.


US gas prices are gonna stay $4+ permanently
I won't say it's impossible, but IMO it is highly unlikely, if the last 50+ years of history are any guide.

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Originally Posted by mmarshall
A number of them. Food and crop shortages from bad weather and/or crop-diseases, increasing demand for more-costly-to-produce organic foods, the increasing costs of running the grocery stores themselves, and higher electricity-prices for food-refrigeration, to name a few.
Are you aware of any such other factors like crop shortage or increasing energy costs in the past 59 days?
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Originally Posted by Framestead
Are you aware of any such other factors like crop shortage or increasing energy costs in the past 59 days?
I don't want to get too far off the topic of gas prices, but, to answer your question, one of the biggest factors has been the ongoing drought across much of the U.S., which has been in place for a number of months now, significantly affecting crop-planting and growth. One can only irrigate so much when even the rivers and lakes are getting low.
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I paid $5.59 tonight for premium
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One point on gas prices that I believe should be brought up again, even though I have mentioned it before during past price-spikes, is that I generally don't recommend giving in to the temptation to use cheap Ma-and-Pa gas-brands that are not at the Tier-1 level. Tier-1 (or Top-Tier) brands are classified as such for a reason...they are usually the ones recommended by auto-manufacturers, they have been well-tested, and they generally contain enough detergent and other additives to keep the engine and fuel-syatem clean and prolong engine life. Sure, you can save a little by putting in the economy stuff, and doing so may not harm your engine very much in the short run if it is already still in good shape. But make a habit of it, and you are risking up a lot of carbon buildup, clogged injectors, and (possibly) professional engine work or cleaning to correct it.

I myself use Shell almost exclusively, since Shell and Chevron generally have the best detergent-additive packages, even among the Top-Tier brands, and Chevron (inexplicably) moved out of the D.C. area a number of years ago. Local Giant Food grocery stores in this area also help subsuidize your Shell-purchases (although it is not a huge amount) by giving you gas-points on each purchase....about one point per dollar. 100 points gets you 10 cents off a gallon. Gas points, of course, have become easier to acccumulate now that Giant grocery prices keep rising.

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I always use Shell because of Giant Points. If not for them I would use whatever name brand/top tier fuel.

I had 40c in a giant points. Helps because fuel prices have made food prices so high, it’s a cycle lol
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Top tier may have its benefits, (sae white paper states non pea/piba actually is the cleanest fuel), but it doesnt change the odds of bad gas at any type of station.

Outside of membership gas, which usually is the cheapest, some like 7-11 or speedway are doing 40 cents off a gallon

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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I paid $5.59 tonight for premium

Yeah...after my Lexus IS300 some 20+ years ago and its gas-guzzing in-line 6 (which, ironically, used gas like a V8 even though I am not a very aggressive driver), i determined I was not going to have any more vehicles that needed premium.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Yeah...after my Lexus IS300 some 20+ years ago and its gas-guzzing in-line 6 (which, ironically, used gas like a V8 even though I am not a very aggressive driver), i determined I was not going to have any more vehicles that needed premium.
Saw a 2000s era 1st gen faded purple Is today. It looked sick, but was creaking like an old pickup.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Yeah...after my Lexus IS300 some 20+ years ago and its gas-guzzing in-line 6 (which, ironically, used gas like a V8 even though I am not a very aggressive driver), i determined I was not going to have any more vehicles that needed premium.
It’s an expensive car. The cost of gas isn’t an issue. However more and more cheaper cars are requiring premium with turbos etc and that’s a big factor.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
It’s an expensive car. The cost of gas isn’t an issue. However more and more cheaper cars are requiring premium with turbos etc and that’s a big factor.

That used to be the case, but many of the recent turbos seem to do OK with 87 octane. Modern computers and spark-timing-control allow the use of lower-octane fuel, even with the high compression that turbos produce.

Of course, you're correct that some cheaper cars DO require premium today, such as the Mini Cooper....but even Minis today are not always cheap. A new AWD Countryman, for example, with options, can run 50K.

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Anyone else noticed that gas has gotten a little bit more expensive lately, or is it just me?
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It has?!?
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I paid $5.59 tonight for premium
it looks like it’s gonna stay that way for quite some time






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