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Old Dec 15, 2025 | 02:49 PM
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Default Next Gen Lightning will be EREV - 700 mile range

Ford says the next Lighting will now be EREV, so a full BEV powertrain along with a gas engine that charges the battery but does not provide any power to the wheels.

Early reaction from current owners isn't particularly positive, with this basically being a RamCharger and arguably worst of all worlds.

What was going to be the all new BEV Lighting, T3, won't be released now and they won't be building a 2026 Lightning.

Mine's warrantied through 2030 and doesn't cost me anything to run so this change doesn't really impact me, but the EREV will at least help silence all the FUD about range as they are targeting 700 mile range.

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Old Dec 16, 2025 | 06:59 AM
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sorry to hear the current lightning has been killed, but not surprised as they lose so much money selling each one.

(note, this isn't a political comment)

question though... weren't car companies under last administration required to build a certain amount of electric vehicles no matter what? or maybe it was to bring their fleet CAFE to a certain level (amounts to same thing).

if so, that was basically telling gm and ford... here you go... lose billions until you magically figure out how to sell ev's profitably.

no wonder ford has not pulled the plug (haha, get it?).

i actually think the lightning is an excellent product though... but like a rivian, lucid, silverado, hummer, etc... it's easier to make great product when profit isn't required.
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Old Dec 16, 2025 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
question though... weren't car companies under last administration required to build a certain amount of electric vehicles no matter what?
I was under the impression it was electric or hybrid, not strictly BEV's. Not really an expert on the subject, though.

I think manufactures jumped the gun and should have started with just PHEV's. I think they saw what Tesla was doing and thought it was easy money. I'm just afraid that all this backtracking is going to cost them more in the long run. BEV's are the future, just maybe not in the next 10 years.


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Originally Posted by Mike728
I was under the impression it was electric or hybrid, not strictly BEV's. Not really an expert on the subject, though.

I think manufactures jumped the gun and should have started with just PHEV's. I think they saw what Tesla was doing and thought it was easy money. I'm just afraid that all this backtracking is going to cost them more in the long run. BEV's are the future, just maybe not in the next 10 years.
so the ice manufacturers are scaling back big time on ev's which i think will have a positive effect for tesla (less competition). while the market may still overall prefer hybrids and phev's at some point i expect tesla's pricing will be irresistible especially if oil/gas prices rise. having said that, electricity prices are rising too.
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Ram REV (renamed from Ramcharger) is already coming out in 2026. Ford is going to be behind
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Mid-size truck market might have been a better place to start. The traditions full size pickup market doesn't often stray far from its proven formula. It took a while for them to accept a v6 turbo ICE motor. Expecting them to jump all the way to an EV so quickly was unreasonable. Will probably be a multi-generational shift to EVs for that market. Its about more than just hp and torque numbers for that market.
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
Ram REV (renamed from Ramcharger) is already coming out in 2026. Ford is going to be behind
Stellantis EVs have been hot garbage so far. Hopefully the REV performs better
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Stellantis EVs have been hot garbage so far. Hopefully the REV performs better
just read another autoblog article saying almost all the hornet ev’s are still for sale.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna

weren't car companies under last administration required to build a certain amount of electric vehicles no matter what? or maybe it was to bring their fleet CAFE to a certain level (amounts to same thing).
Not specifically forced to under law. However, things like 50mpg CAFE standards, carbon credits, scheduled bans on the sale of ICE vehicles and a long list of other regulator schemes made difficult for automakers to not build EVs that the overwhelming majority of car buyers did not want or could afford.

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Originally Posted by Bob04
Mid-size truck market might have been a better place to start. The traditions full size pickup market doesn't often stray far from its proven formula. It took a while for them to accept a v6 turbo ICE motor. Expecting them to jump all the way to an EV so quickly was unreasonable. Will probably be a multi-generational shift to EVs for that market. Its about more than just hp and torque numbers for that market.
Ev trucks just dont make sense, as your having to literally balance weight and range simultaneously.

Erevs make sense, caz of the optics. Folks commonly are accepting because they liken to a diesel locomotive, where the motor acts as a generator, and gives you immense range and power.
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maybe someone can explain how this ice can generate sufficient power to keep the ev side running until it runs out of fuel… it really can charge the batteries that fast?

isn’t this what a chevy volt did?
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It won't, after EV only power runs out the gas engine will kick in and you'll have drastically reduced power. Volt was sorta like that but it didn't have much power to begin with. There is a 1st generation Volt 1 block from me the owner loves the car.
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@AMIRZA786 says EV says are cooling off in EVfornia



Lightning owner says he has trouble towing.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
maybe someone can explain how this ice can generate sufficient power to keep the ev side running until it runs out of fuel… it really can charge the batteries that fast?

isn’t this what a chevy volt did?
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex


@AMIRZA786 says EV says are cooling off in EVfornia

https://youtu.be/vcD38sl1tic?si=wf6lsuGUzw6SobXc


Lightning owner says he has trouble towing.
Not Tesla

https://sherwood.news/tech/teslas-ma...re-going-down/

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