All new BMW iX3
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Pretty much every article or initial launch video on the iX3 is touching on it being a Model Y competitor. BMW is claiming a sub 55K starting MSRP for the iX3 40 sDrive and iX3 40 xDrive, which don't actually arrive until 2027, so the Y without the tax credit isn't a million miles away, and particularly in 2027.
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I was referring to the Model Y - as the thread is about the iX3. Model Y is not the benchmark for driver involvement.
However, Tesla will make more money selling FSD software than engineering effort at driver involvement. That’s what their strategy is. BMW with the new class of vehicle is trying claw back at the ultimate driving machine, including a 51/49 weight distribution.
However, Tesla will make more money selling FSD software than engineering effort at driver involvement. That’s what their strategy is. BMW with the new class of vehicle is trying claw back at the ultimate driving machine, including a 51/49 weight distribution.
Time will tell.
also, the car isn’t even shipping yet, is it? they could have problems building them at scale even with such a radically new platform.
BMW is claiming a sub 55K starting MSRP for the iX3 40 sDrive and iX3 40 xDrive, which don't actually arrive until 2027, so the Y without the tax credit isn't a million miles away, and particularly in 2027.
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Specs on paper sound great but 2027 is so far away that it feels like they could just make up whatever numbers they want at this point just to make the currently sold competition look bad and have people "wait" for their vehicle. 2 years is an absolute lifetime in EV development cycles.
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It will be available in Europe starting March 2026, then other markets like Australia/NZ middle of 2026.
US is not a launch region, hence pushed back to ‘summer’ 2026 (June to august). Not 2027.
I don’t see how they can make the specs up when the pre order is opening up soon for Europe and they have to start delivering by March 2026 and needs to be a volume seller to be successful.
US is not a launch region, hence pushed back to ‘summer’ 2026 (June to august). Not 2027.
I don’t see how they can make the specs up when the pre order is opening up soon for Europe and they have to start delivering by March 2026 and needs to be a volume seller to be successful.
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Specs on paper sound great but 2027 is so far away that it feels like they could just make up whatever numbers they want at this point just to make the currently sold competition look bad and have people "wait" for their vehicle. 2 years is an absolute lifetime in EV development cycles.
Lower spec model will be released in 2026 in Germany.
It is usual for new cars to have specced up versions first, ie first editions and then slowly release cheaper ones. They want to maximize revenue.
It is around 10k more expensive for ok equipped based model and 20k more expensive with most of the reasonable options, compared to Model Y.
While it is Model Y competitor, it is really an mid level premium CUV competitor in Europe. It will probably take more sales from gas/diesels than actual Model Y in Europe, as BEV market is growing.
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stop the nonsense. Cars will be in showrooms in Germany in next 30 days, and deliveries start in March.
Lower spec model will be released in 2026 in Germany.
It is usual for new cars to have specced up versions first, ie first editions and then slowly release cheaper ones. They want to maximize revenue.
It is around 10k more expensive for ok equipped based model and 20k more expensive with most of the reasonable options, compared to Model Y.
While it is Model Y competitor, it is really an mid level premium CUV competitor in Europe. It will probably take more sales from gas/diesels than actual Model Y in Europe, as BEV market is growing.
Lower spec model will be released in 2026 in Germany.
It is usual for new cars to have specced up versions first, ie first editions and then slowly release cheaper ones. They want to maximize revenue.
It is around 10k more expensive for ok equipped based model and 20k more expensive with most of the reasonable options, compared to Model Y.
While it is Model Y competitor, it is really an mid level premium CUV competitor in Europe. It will probably take more sales from gas/diesels than actual Model Y in Europe, as BEV market is growing.
Also, don't be surprised if specs get changed as we get closer to launch. You've been praying that will happen with the EV ES after all.
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I'm talking about the US market, and how convenient that you ignored swajames's post right above you. The mainstream model, which is the one people will actually buy, won't be available here until 2027.
Also, don't be surprised if specs get changed as we get closer to launch. You've been praying that will happen with the EV ES after all.
Also, don't be surprised if specs get changed as we get closer to launch. You've been praying that will happen with the EV ES after all.
I am definitely not a buyer for new ES or any Lexus that exists right now, or probably in the future.
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Nope, but obviously when your argument falls apart after the embarrassing omission I pointed out it's a lot easier to shift goalposts to argue in bad faith. You sure enjoy being condescending without the knowledge or ability to back it up, time and again.
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Remind me, are you Tesla shareholder?
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there will be ix3 on the roads throughout most of 2026.
Last edited by 703; Sep 11, 2025 at 04:47 AM.