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Old May 1, 2025 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
We’ve seen that and we have explained it. You can absolutely get mileage like that for a period of time given specific criteria, but you’re not going to get that mileage over a long drive with varying conditions.
And I listed those conditions.....level interstate, 55-60, mild weather, lightly loaded. EPA does not always test that way.

And, if you remember, to be honest, I usually don't get any better in daily stop/go driving in the D.C. suburbs than the mid 20s the EPA calls for...although sometimes I'll average near 30 if traffic is light, weather is warm, and I have some slightly longer trips mixed in.

Anyhow, I didn't start this thread to argue mileage, but to discuss what I felt were the latest Trailblazer's strong points and shortcomings. It's basically a good vehicle, and I can understand its popularity if road noise is not an issue.....look at the number of people who drive open-top or zip-top Jeep Wranglers, for instance, that have almost no sound-insulation at all. But, to my taste, although I don't expect it to be as quiet as, say, your S-Class, the TB definitely needs some soundproofing.

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Originally Posted by SW17LS
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Let’s put it this way, if GM thought the vehicle could and should get 55 MPG wouldn’t they be all up in arms about the dramatically lower EPA rating?
if it was possible (which it is not) to get 55 miles per gallon on regular basis on the trailblazer, general motors will be all over in the ad advertising. EPA would be called out and so would general motors for not advertising their real fuel efficiency.
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if it was possible (which it is not) to get 55 miles per gallon on regular basis on the trailblazer, general motors will be all over in the ad advertising. EPA would be called out and so would general motors for not advertising their real fuel efficiency.

I agree it is not possible to get that kind of MPG every day, on every kind of road.. I never said it was. But, at the same time, in my experience over the years, EPA tends to be pretty accurate in the City/Stop-and-go mileage but a little too low on the highway mileage. For instance, the EPA rated my old Outback at only 28 Highway, but I got around 32 driving to Ocean City, MD and back on U.S. 50.

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I agree it is not possible to get that kind of MPG every day,
glad there is an agreement that it is not possible to get that kind of miles per gallon
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
glad there is an agreement that it is not possible to get that kind of miles per gallon

Don't misquote me. Like I said, it is not possible all the time, but It is very possible, however, under some conditions. I'd be willing to wager that your 4Runner would do significantly better than the official EPA highway figure if you stayed on a relatively level Interstate, in warmer weather, with the AC compressor off, and stayed close to the speed limit.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
, Like I said, it is not possible all the time,..
exactly.

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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
if it was possible (which it is not) to get 55 miles per gallon on regular basis on the trailblazer, general motors will be all over in the ad advertising. EPA would be called out and so would general motors for not advertising their real fuel efficiency.
Absolutely.

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I agree it is not possible to get that kind of MPG every day, on every kind of road.. I never said it was. But, at the same time, in my experience over the years, EPA tends to be pretty accurate in the City/Stop-and-go mileage but a little too low on the highway mileage. For instance, the EPA rated my old Outback at only 28 Highway, but I got around 32 driving to Ocean City, MD and back on U.S. 50.
The difference between 28 and 32 is much smaller than the difference between 28 and 55 lol
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Absolutely.



The difference between 28 and 32 is much smaller than the difference between 28 and 55 lol

Different vehicles, different engines, different fuel-management systems. Anyhow, I'm moving on.
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Since the basic design has been in production now since 2020, there are (some) rumors of a major redesign in the next couple of years.....but Chevy officially has been largely mum on that issue. With a new Trailblazer, of course, would probably go a new Encore GX.

https://www.carsdirect.com/chevrolet/trailblazer/2026



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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Different vehicles, different engines, different fuel-management systems.
Which begs the question - why is the decades old Outback's MPG even relevant to any discussion about your Buick's MPG?
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Originally Posted by tex2670
Which begs the question - why is the decades old Outback's MPG even relevant to any discussion about your Buick's MPG?
Like I told Jill, it's only part of my own experience of getting Better-Than-EPA mileage figures on the highway. That has happened with me on a number of new vehicles, but I don't remember all of the exact figures I got on all of them....just that I was usually pleasantly surprised on the highway.

And, with a Subaru, it was even more pleasant a surprise, since Subarus, although they have what are mechanically some of the best car-based AWD systems on the market (I highly recommend them for snow). Those systems are essentially full-time, and vary the torque front to rear as needed....they don't ever run in FWD only unless you disconnect the AWD by pulling a fuse. So, they use a little more fuel as a result.

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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Since the basic design has been in production now since 2020, there are (some) rumors of a major redesign in the next couple of years.....but Chevy officially has been largely mum on that issue. With a new Trailblazer, of course, would probably go a new Encore GX.
maybe GM will give it a proper 4 cylinder …made in America too
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
maybe GM will give it a proper 4 cylinder …made in America too

Well, no arguments there. Yes, I'd prefer a non-turbo four-banger...but I can live with the turbo three, as I have for almost five years. Hordes of buyers, however (including my next-door neighbor) have been scooping up the Ford Bronco Sport with the EcoBoost 1.5L Turbo-Three, and some other smaller vehicles now also come with standard threes.

As for Made in America, much of that will depend on the effects of the tariffs and if they force U.S.-market vehicle-production back to our shores, but Dave has asked that we don't get into the tariffs (too political), so I won't discuss that part any further.

If they DO decide to bring production back home, I'd suspect that we would be (most) likely to see it with the major redesign rumored in the next couple of years.

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Why would you prefer a non turbo 4 cyl? I'd rather have a turbo 4 cyl.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Well, no arguments there. Yes, I'd prefer a non-turbo four-banger...but I can live with the turbo three,l
The ideal situation would be a smooth revving six cylinder riding on 60 or 65 series tires….



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