I've got a fantastic one I'll reiterate what I said in the Cybertruck thread - you review the unit you have and not the one you're promised to get. R1S launched with a pretty poorly tuned suspension. It was either floaty or harsh and was unpredictable when going over small bumps at speed. The suspension update that was issued a few months into my ownership made it drive like a whole new vehicle.

Rivian updated the computer literally today. They're claiming performance is 10x the Gen1 and is already shipping. It was part of the April factory shutdown / refresh

Re: CarPlay / Android Auto. The reason why I like using these is because OEM software usually sucks. Not the case with Tesla & Rivian UI. Sure navigation might not be as good as Waze or Google Maps, but it's a lot more visually appealing.

 

I completely agree. I've had our Tesla for 18 months. Hadn't owned a car with CarPlay until January when we bought the QX80. I deactivated CarPlay on my phone within 3 weeks of trying it. What Tesla and Rivian have for UI is far superior in my opinion. I really don't like CarPlay at all compared to these interfaces.

 

While I do appreciate the flexibility and tech-forward nature of the Tesla UI, I've never really understood the love for the Tesla navigation UI. The Apple Maps CarPlay navigation UI in my opinion is one of the best out there, particularly if you live (as I do) in an area where the map data is rock solid and detailed. The latest UI even accurately overlays road markings that exactly mirror those you are driving on, the 3D UI is detailed and the junction positioning info is solid. The other thing is there are far more iPhones and Android phones out there than there are Teslas, so Apple and Google have better live data and bigger volumes of live data to work with. Tesla uses Google but not the way that Google Maps and Waze use their live data. CarPlay/Android Auto is also nice if you switch cars a lot as everything comes along with you.

 

Not all are perfect or been so lucky. My friend has a ‘23 MYLR and ‘22 M3LR. On the Y, the gap between his door panel and dash is larger on the passenger side than it is on the driver side. He’s had 3 rattles early on. Text from him “This Fremont factory build Model 3 is amazing. Nothing wrong with it. The Austin built Y has some rattles and the dash is misaligned. That’s all I can think of right now.”

Also both Model 3s I rented had this separation on the seat. I kept the pic to inform the owner. One was a ‘22 Model 3 with 1800 miles

 

 

These Rivian upgrades are significant and they make already excellent EVs even better.

 

Other than an ever so slight rattle that comes from the rear cargo area if I'm on a really bad road, I have no quality issues, gaps or imperfections. My brother in laws complaint about his 2022 Model 3 rwd is road noise being slightly more than his previous Odyssey and Avalon, but like me, has no quality issues with either his M3 or Model Y. Our cars are Fremont built

 

I absolutely 100 percent prefer the Tesla Infotainment system, including maps over any other infotainment system I've used. I use Android Auto when I drive our Ioniq 5, and I prefer my Tesla's setup over AA. And Tesla is continually improving it, and they have different "views" you can change to, like satellite, traffic conditions, and Points of Interest. I absolutely, positively have no need for AA

 

I like other aspects of Tesla's UI, I've just never thought their nav UI was a strong point. I don't use Android Auto so no comment there but Apple Maps nav UI is visually a lot richer than any other app I've used and their directions are, broadly, on a par with Google/Waze in my experience.

 

Apple software has always been visually better, no doubt about that, but as far as speed, functionality, and even visual aesthetics, I prefer Tesla's implementation of their mapping over Google Maps...which it's based on

 

It's not. It uses Google data. It's not Google Maps.

And if you've not used Apple Maps, how would you know?

 

I've seen Apple maps in use many times, my brother uses it and I've been in cars with people using it. I've seen it using 3D views, showing buildings and bridges etc, and frankly I can care less if maps shows me 3D renderings of your surroundings.

And that's what I meant, Tesla maps uses Google data

 

Only for baseline maps. Mapbox provides everything else, including directions.

 

I'm not saying that's bad, if people have a preference for using Carplay so they can use Apple Maps, more power to them. Just speaking for myself, I personally have no need for either CP or AA in either my Tesla or Polestar. I do use AA in our Ioniq 5 because Google Maps is better than the built in Navigation

 

Including traffic?
Where does Tesla/Rivian get their traffic information? Thanks