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Old Feb 15, 2024 | 05:46 PM
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This is a legitimately great idea. However there are two minor sticking points:

1. A single track day would cost right around $1k--$300 entry fee plus $700 insurance with a $20k deductible, which is still a bit rich for my blood.
2. No chance in hell she'd ever go.
You forgot brake pads and tires.
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Old Feb 15, 2024 | 06:35 PM
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You forgot brake pads and tires.
Especially if planning on drift king driving. Lol
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Old Feb 16, 2024 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jakerin
You forgot brake pads and tires.
Good point, though I'd consider wearing out my brake pads to be a net benefit. Then I can replace them with some that don't emit a continuous cloud of brake dust.

Back on topic, though this isn't a quirk of an individual car, the two cars I drive most often have two frequently-used controls reversed. Our Q7 has the start button on the dash and the volume **** on the center console (a location I've grown to significantly prefer), while my M3 has the volume **** on the dash and the start button on the center console. Still throws me for a loop when I switch back and forth.

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Old Feb 16, 2024 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by geko29
Our Q7 has the start button on the dash and the volume **** on the center console (a location I've grown to significantly prefer), while my M3 has the volume **** on the dash and the start button on the center console. Still throws me for a loop when I switch back and forth.
Reminds me of the old Swedish-designed Saabs (not necessarily the GM-or Subaru-badged ones) that had the ignition key down on the console.....remember those?



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Old Feb 16, 2024 | 02:38 PM
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The Lexus UX has the volume control on the center console, doesn't it?

One quirk on my Tundra is the steering wheel mounted radio controls. I feel that they got them backward. Volume controls, to go UP or DOWN, require switch movements to the left or right. Yet to go to the next track, you go UP, not to the RIGHT. That seems backward to me. I'd prefer you go up/down to turn the volume up/down, and go left/right to go back a track or to the next one.
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Old Feb 16, 2024 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JDR76
One quirk on my Tundra is the steering wheel mounted radio controls. I feel that they got them backward. Volume controls, to go UP or DOWN, require switch movements to the left or right. Yet to go to the next track, you go UP, not to the RIGHT. That seems backward to me. I'd prefer you go up/down to turn the volume up/down, and go left/right to go back a track or to the next one.
I found that weird as well.
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Old Feb 16, 2024 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by geko29
Good point, though I'd consider wearing out my brake pads to be a net benefit. Then I can replace them with some that don't emit a continuous cloud of brake dust.

Back on topic, though this isn't a quirk of an individual car, the two cars I drive most often have two frequently-used controls reversed. Our Q7 has the start button on the dash and the volume **** on the center console (a location I've grown to significantly prefer), while my M3 has the volume **** on the dash and the start button on the center console. Still throws me for a loop when I switch back and forth.
Speaking of the Q7 my business partner leased a 2023 Q7 last summer and after driving home with the car he realized it didn’t have remote start and he told me you couldn’t get remote start from the factory. Sure enough, I looked it up and finally in the 2024 model years they added remote start to the app. How does a tier 1 brand not have something basic like that?
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Old Feb 16, 2024 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Speaking of the Q7 my business partner leased a 2023 Q7 last summer and after driving home with the car he realized it didn’t have remote start and he told me you couldn’t get remote start from the factory. Sure enough, I looked it up and finally in the 2024 model years they added remote start to the app. How does a tier 1 brand not have something basic like that?
They don't like external access to that pat of the canbus, it was just never a thing and it's a pain to add/you literally need to leave a key inside the car for any add on system to work. The other reason is because usually Audis had factory equipped parking heater systems that drew on the fuel tank to not only keep the engine ready to start but also pre-condition the entire interior to your requested spec via a menu built directly into the MMI......however that's something you never saw over here. Logic being it worked more effectively than a remote start and there is no risk of engine issues/wear from cold starting and you don't use nearly as much fuel to achieve a better end effect.

https://www.audiworld.com/forums/a6-...eater-2966627/

Short answer: they never had it because they had a superior system.
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Old Feb 16, 2024 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
They don't like external access to that pat of the canbus, it was just never a thing and it's a pain to add/you literally need to leave a key inside the car for any add on system to work. The other reason is because usually Audis had factory equipped parking heater systems that drew on the fuel tank to not only keep the engine ready to start but also pre-condition the entire interior to your requested spec via a menu built directly into the MMI......however that's something you never saw over here. Logic being it worked more effectively than a remote start and there is no risk of engine issues/wear from cold starting and you don't use nearly as much fuel to achieve a better end effect.

https://www.audiworld.com/forums/a6-...eater-2966627/

Short answer: they never had it because they had a superior system.
Never knew that, learn something new every day. How does it work in summer to cool the car? Does the preheat or precool actually work better than remote start of does it just work better in theory?
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Old Feb 16, 2024 | 06:52 PM
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Weird quirk for my car, there are no track forward or back buttons. On the steering wheel you can skip forward or back only if the album art is displayed in the IP and you skip forward by swiping down on the left thumb pad.
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Old Feb 16, 2024 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Never knew that, learn something new every day. How does it work in summer to cool the car? Does the preheat or precool actually work better than remote start of does it just work better in theory?
I know heat works better, in summer even my black A8 cools so fast I've never really actually thought about that.....it needs about 5 seconds to start blowing a lot of cold air to all 4 zones. If you have the solar roof it runs the fans when you are away to keep hot air out though, you can also drop all windows with the key as you walk to the car to vent air that way.
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Old Feb 17, 2024 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Never knew that, learn something new every day. How does it work in summer to cool the car? Does the preheat or precool actually work better than remote start of does it just work better in theory?
I would wager that running the vehicle would provide maximum cooling.
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Old Feb 17, 2024 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Weird quirk for my car, there are no track forward or back buttons. On the steering wheel you can skip forward or back only if the album art is displayed in the IP and you skip forward by swiping down on the left thumb pad.
I find that very odd too. IMO their system is a bit complicated. What about the wipers? Is that considered a quirk too? I hope one day they get this resolved. At least their Auto works. Other than that, MB is still one of my favorite brands.
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Old Feb 18, 2024 | 07:06 AM
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According to the MB fans who swear skipping wipers aren’t a real thing they are a quirk!
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Old Feb 18, 2024 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Speaking of the Q7 my business partner leased a 2023 Q7 last summer and after driving home with the car he realized it didn’t have remote start and he told me you couldn’t get remote start from the factory. Sure enough, I looked it up and finally in the 2024 model years they added remote start to the app. How does a tier 1 brand not have something basic like that?
My understanding is that idling your car while you're not in it is illegal in Germany and some other European countries, and that it's so culturally looked down on that your neighbors will come over and shut your car off if they see it idling.

BMW was late to the game as well offering remote start. It wasn't available on the 5 series until the LCI in 2021, I believe. My 17 doesn't have it.

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