General Car Conversation 2024 - part 1
Lexus Champion
Joined: Jan 2012
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From: Knoxville, TN
LS430 Mark Levinson is 240 watts, regular Pioneer I have is 178. Like I said, it's a great base system. Comes with a sub and all.
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: May 2012
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From: Maryland
I think a brand has standards. Lexus vehicles used to never have fake wood. I don't think fake wood belongs in a luxury vehicle.
You should have heard the Nakamichi...
yea the harmon kardon is a bit meh... i'd imagine the bose systems were better
the pioneer system in the LS blows the harmon kardon away for sheer output capability while maintaining excellent clarity, the harmon kardon also has no subwoofer whereas the LS does
in the benz you can actually turn the volume all the way up, i'm not saying you can't in the LS but it will be painfully loud lmao... i think i might've ever done that like once and i got so startled i near instantly lowered it back to like 1/4 volume
what i've never figured out is how that system with "only" 215 watts can produce such magic
the pioneer system in the LS blows the harmon kardon away for sheer output capability while maintaining excellent clarity, the harmon kardon also has no subwoofer whereas the LS does
in the benz you can actually turn the volume all the way up, i'm not saying you can't in the LS but it will be painfully loud lmao... i think i might've ever done that like once and i got so startled i near instantly lowered it back to like 1/4 volume
what i've never figured out is how that system with "only" 215 watts can produce such magic
Lexus Test Driver
Joined: Apr 2012
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From: Long Island
think his name's jim but here it's @Kansas , anyway he once described the difference between the two: he said the pioneer had a more clear digital sound, whereas the nakamichi had more of a warm analogue sound... either way i don't doubt the magnificence of the nakamichi
these days though i'm happier to have the pioneer being that nakamichi no longer really exists lol
these days though i'm happier to have the pioneer being that nakamichi no longer really exists lol
to me, it's you saying "well you don't go along with the herd, so you must be wrong".
Lexus Fanatic
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From: Maryland
Fingers crossed! He did tell me any SWB could be had much sooner than any LWB
Lexus Champion
Joined: Oct 2019
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From: Ohio
The LWB is so cool inside for the rear seats, full on executive pack is fantastic. Massage, recline, full power everything and a fridge etc....
Not sure if you would bother but it's really a nice place to hang out if you have people you like a lot who often come along lol!
Not sure if you would bother but it's really a nice place to hang out if you have people you like a lot who often come along lol!
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From: ON/NY
Toyota should have just imported the Land Cruiser 300 in multiple trims
Lexus Champion
Joined: Jan 2012
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From: Knoxville, TN
Lexus Champion
Joined: Oct 2019
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From: Ohio
Im certainly not trading mine for a new one, it's a regression in so many ways I have no interest.