The fact that you know how long it takes to remove and reinstall the trans is the exact reason I will never own one of these piles of crap.

 

They are insanely cheap to own and so easy to work on its 1000% worth it, takes me longer to do a motor mount in an RX than to just replace the engine in a charger lol!

 

right but i bet an rx motor mount is a wee bit cheaper than an entire engine in a charger.

 

Actually not by much, genuine Lexus front active mount and the rear mount cost the same as a used 5.7........

They are truly insanely cheap to own, my Jeep is only still around because of not only how easy it is to work on but also how absurdly good parts costs are. I keep trying to get rid of it but it's just too nice to have prices that low

 

their reliability record is not good, for sure, but i've no doubt they still have millions of satisfied customers.

my issue with stellantis products is it just all seems so old school. the pacifica is probably their best product, but obviously a niche.

cars like challenger are just appealing to 'old school muscle car' and cheap performance car buyers.

jeep has a whole mystique. i know a couple of jeep owners... they love 'em.

friend has a 4xe (jeep wrangler phev) - loves it!

so what brand are you selling now?

 

My experience is the the people who like Stellantis products REALLY like them. To the point I've had a lot of arguments with people who insist that Dodge makes the most reliable cars on the market.

 

I mean.....they can be reliable if you get a good one, god help you if you get a bad one.

 

I am selling bmw now, I am actually enthusiastic about it because it's a luxury brand, so people buying them are a different demographic than stellantic products. Also you don't need to buy a bmw its a luxury good so it sits better with my moral compass, and stomach.

The thing that really pushed me over the edge was the last dealership I was at charged some lady with kids $800ish a month for a jeep compass, and I made a stink about it management got mad and started treating me like crap. So I just left. We need to make money but there is a fine line between making money and taking advantage of people.

 

That's a good one. Chryslers are disasters.

 

Thank you @TangoRed
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I have owned a couple Dodge Ram pickups but that's about it from this list.

The Dodge trucks were good but I've always liked Ford better.

 

The big one I've always heard about from CDRJ salesmen was taking customers with really bad credit and a lot of negative equity in their last stupid decision, and putting them in a Dodge Journey. The incentives allowed them to roll the negative equity and still meet the LTV requirements for the subprime loan.

 

My buddy has owned a '15 Charger Pursuit 5.7 RWD since 2018. It changed my mind on Chrysler products, especially the LX platform. We have two Journies in the group and those are craptastic to drive and to work on (Ball joints and battery comes to mind), but the Charger's large engine bay, longitudinal mounting and a lack of BS in said engine bay make it a breeze to work on. It has been very reliable and passed 300k km on the original drivetrain. The police racked up half a year's worth of idle hours so we had to do the lifters. We did it in the garage with common hand tools and it was a straightforward job. The 5.7 Hemi has plenty of power, takes 87 all day and gets acceptable mileage for what it is being a simple pushrod V8.

We threw in some SRT Bilstein suspension take offs and a Challenger Hellcat rear LSD and now you have yourself a solid weekend warrior / daily driver. It has done great on track days and autocross and is just a fun and affordable car to own.

 

Now throw a TXspeed cam set into it for 450hp, I do these all the time. They are just SO easy to work on it's insane

 

Not necessarily. The Dodge Charger and Challenger, unlike most of the rest of the Stellntis lineup, have indeed become reliable lately. Their platform and components have been in production so long that most of the bugs and issues have been worked out.

 

Thank you for being an honest salesperson. Depending on the length of the loan or lease, $800 a month for a POS Compass is indeed highly questionable, unless it is a very short-term contract.