Are you talking about the RAV4 Prime? If it's in such high demand, why don't I see them on the road? I see 1 or 2 a month. If you told me the Model Y is in demand I can believe that because I see more of them then I can count daily. I see lots of Camry's and Corollas. I don't know if I actually believe they are in that much demand, if they are and Toyota can't produce them, they may need to find another line of business

 

I think Toyota is using it as a compliance vehicle they don't want to make in large numbers, too expensive.

 

i suspect toyota doesn't make a lot of money on prime (phev) vehicles so they don't make many, plus they may be supply constrained.

but how about we get back to cr's assertion that ev's have 80% more problems.

the other way of looking at that statistic, is if an ice car has 1 'reliability problem' then an ev has 1.8 (round to 2) problems. hardly a crisis but "80%" sounds moe dramatic and makes toyota owner cr subscribers feel more satisfied with their decisions and lack of any desire to change.

 

It just may next time the engine starts. Last time I filled up was just shy of 4k miles ago.

 

Last time I filled up was.... jeez, I can't remember . Just playing with you 😜

Next time if you could bold your responses when responding during quoting, as I didn't realize you responded directly until I read through it a second time

 

I’ve taken a road trip this past 4 weekends with the shortest one being around 800 mile round trip. 2 type of vehicles I always pass on the highway, 18 wheelers and EVs. Out of my 13,500 miles, I would say at least 12k miles are EV only. I’m quite aware that 70mph+ in EV kills range. Some will say they travel 80-90mph in their EV on roadtrips. 🤥

In my seldom seen R4P on roadtrips at speeds 5-10mph over the speed limit there is no range anxiety. There’s maybe 👮 anxiety but not range. I will use the restroom and eat before I leave and again when I reach my destination. I don’t want to feel like I’ve been driving all day because I’ve had to stop to charge which turns into a restroom and lunch break. Depending on your appetite, your charging stop could potentially turn into a gas station stop💵 .

So like full EV owners, I too wake up to a “full tank of gas” everyday and on roadtrips I will have full tank of gas to run in hybrid mode and once I reach my destination I will still have a “full tank of gas” to run around the city/town in EV mode because I kept that EV range in my back pocket…best of both worlds.

 

I average about 80 MPH on my trips, but remember, I have a giant 81 kWh battery, so no range anxiety at all. If I total the time it takes to stop and charge, it's less than 25 minutes.

Anything past 400 miles (one way), gas or EV I fly

 

Pretty much identical experience here. Zero range anxiety issues here. Though to be fair, 3 out of our 4 cars are ICE, so I guess we really don't care that much.

 

Read my post again where I said Toyota doesnt produce alot of them lol. A car can be in high demand and not have high production numbers. Like the Gr Corolla or alot of lower production vehicles. Raptor R high demand low production. Cmon man lol

 

I can't go back to a wheezy 4-cylinder I just can't. Even my V6 Highlander hybrid feels ancient now.
Prime is competing with very high volume cars like the Model Y so Toyota should be churning them out.

 

Got it, I re-read your post. Just like Lex mentioned, I just can not go back to a 4 cylinder. It would be like owning a Raptor, and trading it up for a turbo 4 cylinder truck. Doable, but too much mental adjustment

 

You're going to have to help us out here, @BayeauxLex , because this claim

And this claim:

isn't possible if over the past 4 weekends you've taken 4 road trips at no less than 800 miles per trip with driving at 70+ a car with a 14.5 gallon fuel tank and an 18 kWh battery with a 42 mile give or take EV only range.

 

How far can you travel averaging 80mph before stopping to charge?

Add a hybrid battery and it’s not much different but that also depends on how big/small said vehicle.

I have 6 cars plus I’ve had a rental for past 4 weeks that I’m turning back in today.

edit: the rental has been out of town past 4 weekends. In the meantime, back at home I daily my PHEV in EV mode. I will report back today how many miles I’ve put on the rental.

 

It all depends. The stops are all planned out for you by the mapping software. It looks at different factors such as traffic conditions, current weather, speed, and even looks at how crowded superchargers are getting. If it sees 50 Tesla's heading for a particular charging stop, it will reroute me to another one. It usually keeps a buffer of 9 to 10 percent SoC. There are basically two stops I have to make. If I charge to 100 percent, I could probably get away with just one stop, but the trip would actually take longer, as the time to charge between 80 and 100 percent takes just as long or longer than charging between 10 percent and 80 percent.

Just doing rough math, over 7,843 miles of driving, I'm averaging about 255 miles on my driving style. I'm pretty sure I could easily hit over 300 miles if I set my car to use "Chill Mode" and never went over 65 mph

 

I was under the impression you guys only charge to 100 at home starting out then whatever % it advises you to charge to at your stops.

Going back to my previous post I put 2,990 miles on the rental car in the past 4 weekends. It was primarily used for road trips. I believe I used it 2-3x to pick up food/kids around town when weather was bad and I didn’t want to drive one of our other vehicles.