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That's a good point. They should arm them with shooting spikes. Or they should emanate 120,000 volts of electricity. Teach those buggers a lesson 😊
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Electric vehicles release more toxic emissions, are worse for the environment than gas-powered cars: study
https://nypost.com/2024/03/05/busine...ronment-study/
apparently tires are the biggest issue!
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It found that brakes and tires on EVs release 1,850 times more particle pollution compared to modern tailpipes, which have “efficient” exhaust filters, bringing gas-powered vehicles’ emissions to new lows.
As for the tires - from what little I've read, the biggest offenders re: toxicity and wear are on the cheaper end of the spectrum. Wouldn't be too concerned if you're used to looking for the best tires available. Would be concerned if you like SUVs or other unnecessarily heavy vehicles, as this might finally get them regulated in some way.
How can the market respond when generally everything is *****?
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As for the tires - from what little I've read, the biggest offenders re: toxicity and wear are on the cheaper end of the spectrum. Wouldn't be too concerned if you're used to looking for the best tires available. Would be concerned if you like SUVs or other unnecessarily heavy vehicles, as this might finally get them regulated in some way.
How can the market respond when generally everything is *****?
thankfully, this euro ncap is not a regulatory body, they just do tests, and are puffing their self-importance by blathering about controls now.
i'm sure what's coming next is regulations on how fast cars can accelerate, top speed limits, etc.
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ICE vehicles are quite heavy nowadays too, so the same applies to them. Tailpipe particulate emissions are fine on anything with a particulate filter (i.e. diesels) or with a sane combustion strategy (petrols that don't try to be a diesel by injecting just before spark). NOx/CO/VOCs are another story.
As for the tires - from what little I've read, the biggest offenders re: toxicity and wear are on the cheaper end of the spectrum. Wouldn't be too concerned if you're used to looking for the best tires available. Would be concerned if you like SUVs or other unnecessarily heavy vehicles, as this might finally get them regulated in some way.
How can the market respond when generally everything is *****?
As for the tires - from what little I've read, the biggest offenders re: toxicity and wear are on the cheaper end of the spectrum. Wouldn't be too concerned if you're used to looking for the best tires available. Would be concerned if you like SUVs or other unnecessarily heavy vehicles, as this might finally get them regulated in some way.
How can the market respond when generally everything is *****?
Just got our auto insurance renewal docs from Allstate and for the 3 cars we're at about $1,250 for 6 months. My wife's Model 3 LR is the highest at $500. She has had 2 claims but neither was her fault - one was when the car was hit while parked at the gym, the other was someone slow rolled into it at a stop sign. I'm tempted to ask them to look at it but my Rivian insurance is so cheap ($335) I don't want them to look too closely at our account haha
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Just got our auto insurance renewal docs from Allstate and for the 3 cars we're at about $1,250 for 6 months. My wife's Model 3 LR is the highest at $500. She has had 2 claims but neither was her fault - one was when the car was hit while parked at the gym, the other was someone slow rolled into it at a stop sign. I'm tempted to ask them to look at it but my Rivian insurance is so cheap ($335) I don't want them to look too closely at our account haha
2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5: $1906.12
2023 Chevy Bolt EUV: $883.37
2013 Sienna: $1349.48
2022 Polestar 2: $1414.05
Total= $5,553.02
My 2023 Model Y is insured through Tesla Insurance, $1,100, making it a grand total of $6,653
I don't know what crack State Farm is smoking. I have a quote for $3,800 (somewhere around this range) from Geico, same coverage, deductibles. The issue now with insurance companies here is that they now put you through a 15 day waiting period, even though I have an excellent driving record and I was a previous Geico customer. I think many companies are purposely trying to get people to drop them, otherwise why would you make it so hard to get coverage, and raise rates this high?
Here's my State Farm renewal:
2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5: $1906.12
2023 Chevy Bolt EUV: $883.37
2013 Sienna: $1349.48
2022 Polestar 2: $1414.05
Total= $5,553.02
My 2023 Model Y is insured through Tesla Insurance, $1,100, making it a grand total of $6,653
I don't know what crack State Farm is smoking. I have a quote for $3,800 (somewhere around this range) from Geico, same coverage, deductibles. The issue now with insurance companies here is that they now put you through a 15 day waiting period, even though I have an excellent driving record and I was a previous Geico customer. I think many companies are purposely trying to get people to drop them, otherwise why would you make it so hard to get coverage, and raise rates this high?
2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5: $1906.12
2023 Chevy Bolt EUV: $883.37
2013 Sienna: $1349.48
2022 Polestar 2: $1414.05
Total= $5,553.02
My 2023 Model Y is insured through Tesla Insurance, $1,100, making it a grand total of $6,653
I don't know what crack State Farm is smoking. I have a quote for $3,800 (somewhere around this range) from Geico, same coverage, deductibles. The issue now with insurance companies here is that they now put you through a 15 day waiting period, even though I have an excellent driving record and I was a previous Geico customer. I think many companies are purposely trying to get people to drop them, otherwise why would you make it so hard to get coverage, and raise rates this high?
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"Auto insurance rates are rising nationwide due to several factors, including the increase in car values, labor costs, and the cost of auto parts.It's important to note that these factors are not exclusive to any particular region but have a nationwide impact. Insurance companies consider various factors when setting rates, including the make and model of the vehicle, the driver's history, location, and other risk factors. However, the increase in car values, labor costs, and the cost of auto parts are contributing factors that have led to the overall rise in auto insurance rates across the country"
I asked him what about my rising costs, no answer back on that front