I look at it another way, some of the other manufacturers already have those features that don’t need to be “updated” because they are either already offered or just work correctly out of the box. For example, why are they just getting to a semi 360 camera angle when they had the cameras to do it all along. Also, why do my auto high beams still and auto wipers still suck compared to my BMW? Tesla constantly updates for these little things and they still can’t get the basics right. If they got it right the first time they wouldn’t have to always update.

 

Tesla is the wrong car to buy if you want an "offline" automobile.

 

I don’t mind an online automobile but with all of the updates they still can’t get certain things right and keep tinkering with stuff and still can’t get it right. I don’t mind updates but just get some of the basics right. They are so far ahead of other manufacturers in technology but can’t get simple things right.

The analogy to Apple seems on point in certain respects. I am an iPhone owner and I hear from my Samsung smartphone friend how iPhones tout some new great features with each new model when Samsung had the same feature two years ago.

 

Some folks might consider pressuring employees from one company that you own a small percentage of to do work for another company that you own a large percentage of to be stealing from the company. Is your tolerance very low for this activity?

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/31/elon...cial%20network.

 

I'm just guessing Tesla is doing things similar to what Apple does, they don't add certain tech until it's perfected, then keep building on it. Voice commands, maps, NFC, and even LTE were in Android phones years before Apple embraced them. Over time they will just keep improving in Teslas, while you're BMW will be stuck in a specific point in time. For those that frequently change cars, I guess that doesn't really matter, but I plan to keep my Y at least for the next 8 years

 

On another note, just got my first referral. My coworker is trading in his 3 series for a Model Y Long Range, and just placed the order today! Not sure how many points I'll get from Tesla, but once he does all financing and paperwork, everything will be good to go! I'll probably get the referral points once he takes delivery

 

Exactly. I remember when Apple introduced Siri... Android had voice commands (Google voice) going back 2 or 3 years prior. Same with NFC, LTE etc.

As far as software updates, I've had zero issues with them in my Y. In fact, they have only made my car better. I only had two issues that updates fixed... wipers going off when they shouldn't, and phantom braking using Autopilot, both have been fixed

 

Stealing? lol you can't be serious. Not even CNBC used that word and the entire article is a hit piece.

 

Announced today that SpaceX (and essentially Musk) have been accused of illegally firing workers concerned about Musk's behavior

https://www.reuters.com/technology/s...ys-2024-01-03/

Follows on from prior allegations of employee abuse at SpaceX and Tesla (SpaceX reportedly settled and paid 250,000 after a flight attendant alleged Musk exposed himself to her, and there's ongoing litigation involving the EEOC alleging racial harrasment and retaliation against workers subject to the alleged harassment at Tesla).

https://www.eeoc.gov/newsroom/eeoc-s...nd-retaliation

There's a bit of a pattern here.

 

To Elon, the survival of either is dependant on the success of both.

 

All I can say is Elon better do whatever it takes to keep his top help.

Don't over work them, don't hand waive them away when concerns come up, and for gosh sakes have their back.

He better step it up unless he wants to write his own code cuz the top help won't and don't need to tolerate it. Lol

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Having difficulty seeing the correlation to Apple. I can point to a few examples Apple waited and came out with a better version of that feature.

However, Tesla don't add tech until it's perfected? Completely loss by this statement. Their auto wipers, auto high beam, Tesla maps, 360 view, blind spot monitor are all arguably worse than the competitors. How has Tesla over time improved on auto wipers vs competition? Tesla maps vs Google maps? Auto high beams vs others? How did Tesla build on these features to make them better?

What tech did Tesla wait to add until it's perfected? Honestly struggling to come up with an example. Maybe their infotainment UI? Their mobile app?

Imo I think Tesla is rather a first mover on tech and not like Apple that waits.

 

​​​​​One example is parking assist without parking sensors, smart cruise without radar (Autopilot), training the AI to use purely visual. It's not perfect, but every update makes significant improvements. Other noticeable improvements they have made are in efficiency, and performance. These can actually be measured, something I constantly do. Tesla is also constantly adding features on the fly, which are well documented.

​​​​​​I'm not saying I agree with everything Tesla does, like removing parking sensors, but as long as things work properly, I really don't care. I'll just leave you with this: I ain't going back to a regular car

 

My observation is the most ardent Tesla critics tend not to own one. Of course you can find owners that hate very brand and model of car.
Only regret is my Highlander was the main family car for so long now it feels insanely dated. And it's one of the fastest Toyota SUVs ever made even to this day.

 

Their new park assist seems to be pretty good vs their first release which was a mess. I think where the confusion lies was when you pointed out similarities with Apple and Tesla. Imo when Apple releases a new feature, "it just works" and works well, usually better than the competition. When Tesla does its half baked and hot garbage (sometimes), until updates fixes it over time....some features are still worse than current vehicles and hopefully updates will get it up to par.