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Like anything, you have to get used to having no stalks. All the gripes are just not getting used to it because it’s only a test drive. You know I don’t like the buttons for turn signals and I still make embarrassing blunders more the two years in with them but I wouldn’t say it is hard to use them, just not ideal/dumb. As for the windshield wipers, he just didn’t know how to use them, there are several different modes besides auto. The rear doors I do agree with him on.
I think one of the main reasons is my sister in law would refuse to drive it, this would mainly be her car. I've known her for 26 years, and I agree with him, if it's not easy to use or she runs into any issues, she just will simply refuse to drive it.
Another thing he mentioned is it's really hard to maneuver while trying to park it, and he said the blind spot due to the side pillars is pretty bad. His wife is not good at parking, and he thinks this would be a huge problem.
Last thing, he's an avid consumer reports reader (he still gets the hard copy version lol) and he told me he experienced all the issues they mentioned and tends to follow their recommendations, which was a recommendation to not buy a model X.
I can safely say he didn't like it, I think the EV 9 is more suited for my sister in law
Like anything, you have to get used to having no stalks. All the gripes are just not getting used to it because it’s only a test drive. You know I don’t like the buttons for turn signals and I still make embarrassing blunders more the two years in with them but I wouldn’t say it is hard to use them, just not ideal/dumb. As for the windshield wipers, he just didn’t know how to use them, there are several different modes besides auto. The rear doors I do agree with him on.
I really don't want to get used to using vital controls of my car, I'd rather they just operate in the typical most ergonomic way.
I really don't want to get used to using vital controls of my car, I'd rather they just operate in the typical most ergonomic way.
When I test drove the Highland, the 1st time I was making a lane change I grabbed air. Laughed at myself. After that, the button was fine; in fact there is no need to take your hand off the steering wheel.
Piece of cake.
When I test drove the Highland, the 1st time I was making a lane change I grabbed air. Laughed at myself. After that, the button was fine; in fact there is no need to take your hand off the steering wheel.
Piece of cake.
The difference between the Highland and X is the Highland has clickable buttons with feedback while the X has haptic feedback. They do work on the Highland much better, but removal of the stalks still makes me question...why?
I really don't want to get used to using vital controls of my car, I'd rather they just operate in the typical most ergonomic way.
I don’t disagree and I’ve been a critic of the buttons since I’ve owned the car, I was just pointing out that it’s tough to say they are hard to use from a short test drive. You may not like them but they aren’t hard to use.
Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
The difference between the Highland and X is the Highland has clickable buttons with feedback while the X has haptic feedback. They do work on the Highland much better, but removal of the stalks still makes me question...why?
I’ve heard the same about the Highland buttons. I find it interesting that the Model 3/Y get the good buttons on the steering wheel and the S/X get the crappy ones. I notice a difference in the scroll wheels on the S/X are not as good/easy to use vs. the 3/Y and now the turn signal buttons are better too.
When I test drove the Highland, the 1st time I was making a lane change I grabbed air. Laughed at myself. After that, the button was fine; in fact there is no need to take your hand off the steering wheel.
Piece of cake.
I don't take my hand off the wheel using a stalk either. I'll take the stalk.
This is my issue with the buttons, I just don't see any argument that this is better:
Sometimes, you will need to indicate a turn when your wheel is already turned. This can happen in a lot of different scenarios, like when you’re preparing to exit a driveway onto a road or you’re indicating readiness to turn into a parking spot, marking your intended plan, or you’re on a roundabout and need to signal when you’re exiting, or lots of other situations. It’s not that uncommon. And yet, in any case where the steering wheel isn’t dead straight ahead, those turn indicator buttons will be somewhere else. They can be anywhere on the circle of where that steering wheel can turn. They can be 45° above or below where you expect them or 120° away. Once they get to, say, 90°+, the orientation of the controls in relation to one another changes, too.
What was once a button atop another will become two side-by-side buttons. Where top button meant right and bottom means left reverses once the wheel passes that 90° mark. There’s no way that’s better. A stalk stays in the same place, requiring the same motion for left and right, which is how muscle memories are formed. When the wheel is turned, you’d have to give at least some kind of glance to know where the buttons are and how they’re oriented. Sure, if you keep your hands locked at 9 and 3 like they say you should when track driving, I guess that could be okay, but let’s be real: that’s not how people tend to drive.
I'm still holding out for the return of 3 in the tree shifting want to operate my vehicle is the typical most ergonomic way.
I have a modern implementation of this style of gear selector and I love it. Super easy to select gears and moving between park and drive and reverse is smooth and straightforward, Tesla used it for years...including in your Model Y:
The gear selector in my other car as a comparison is terrible...
Gear selectors are another area where many of the latest designs are terrible, and a simple column or console mounted shifter like we had for decades and decades is better.
I'm still holding out for the return of 3 in the tree shifting want to operate my vehicle is the typical most ergonomic way.
Just a nit-pick. That's an automatic, so not a 3 on the tree. My grandmother drove a '61 Impala with one up until she stopped driving in her 80's. Fun times riding with her!
