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Old Jun 15, 2023 | 12:43 PM
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Default So I test drove a tesla

I was surprised how many they had on their lot for test drive. They probably have 200 on that huge parking lot. It's also a service center so some might be customers' but it'd be strange if that's where they park customers' cars. There were a Y and an X in the showroom but they had all flavors. I sat in both and decided to take the X. I was also thinking about the S but maybe next time. IMO...

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The biggest surprise is 3rd rows are quite comfortable. With the captain chairs set up, it's convenient to get back there. But if you don't need them and want them folded, I read it may cause some unwanted noise and 2nd row needs to be moved forward.
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AC system: nice and strong.
Big screen can be tilted to driver, passenger or straight. This is nice. It makes touching screen less troublesome.
Suspension: This thing comes with 22" but air suspension makes it ride so freaking smooth and quiet. It's a bit too smooth for me. I felt a bit dizzy even when set to sport. I like to feel the road.
It's definitely cool to see all the cars around you on the cluster.

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It doesn't feel like you're in 100k car.

The biggest is the yolk. What in the world were they thinking? Going out from a parking lot to a traffic street never felt so scary. I wanted to do some more aggressive testing but it scared me.
Interior does not match the price tag. But seats feel fine.
The cluster is too tiny. Navigation does the job but again could be better for the price tag.
I feel isolation could be better. I could hear noise from outside.
Glass roof continued from the windshield: I'm surprised that it's not an issue for customers. I could feel the heat and light from the sun. This is a no no for my wife. She can not stand the sun hitting her from above.

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Acceleration (): I was expecting this thing would just fly. 3.8 didn't seem as fast as I anticipated. I'm by no mean a speeder but coming from low 5s, I thought 3.8 would fly. Honestly I didn't quite feel it's faster. It doesn't respond as aggressive as my 40i in S+. Maybe I need to floor it?
On the cluster when stopped, the car icon just moves left and right from the lane. Does this have a meaning?


Audio: Maybe there's some setting but if your phone and rear entertainment are both activated, when one is turned on, the sound only comes from the selected zone.
I have my phone connected but I didn't get any text notification.
Signaling: Not having a stalk is kind of weird but those two buttons do the job fine. The car is smart enough to know if you're done changing lane or in turning lane to turn it off or keep signaling on.
One foot driving is convenient.
Interface seems fine like using an iPad

Final words: It's a nice transportation.
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Old Jun 15, 2023 | 12:57 PM
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Great review. With no engine to mask sounds, the 20" wheels bring in road noise, which is why I selected the 19" for my Y. The yoke is a no starter for me (I would get it with the regular steering wheel). It's been warm weather here in Northern Cal, the glass roof hasn't been an issue for me, but you can get a sun shade from the Tesla store (they will install it for you). Tesla is also very good at modulating throttle. Many times I find myself hitting 90 mph on the freeway (feels like I'm going 50 mph), so I have to turn on Autopilot (smart cruise control) to keep from speeding.

Tesla does not work like a dealership. Those cars you saw on the lot were most likely either ready to be delivered or were waiting for pickup. When I went to the Fremont showroom with my brother in law to pick up his Model 3, there were Tesla's as far as the eye can see. Every one of those was either waiting to be loaded on trucks or for customers to come pick them up
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Old Jun 15, 2023 | 01:22 PM
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Yeah, $100K is too much for me. Money only spends once. I am anxious to see the Highland...
By the way, your review is far to honest; you do not qualify for fanboy status.
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Yeah, $100K is too much for me. Money only spends once. I am anxious to see the Highland...
By the way, your review is far to honest; you do not qualify for fanboy status.
Jeff, you forgot to use the subliminal message indoctrinator. I'm disappointed. I'm letting Elon know about this....
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You need to floor it from a dead stop in the full power mode for the full effect. It's quite good but it will not feel that impressive if you don't commit or already have some speed since their power is only down low.

If you expect a rolling pull that just keeps going like an M340i it's not happening.

Interior is what it is, the S is better. Suspension is a weak point on all teslas if you expect it to feel German. They don't intend for it to talk to you like that.....

Still a good car but not at that price IMO, maybe at 30k it would be worth it once it's used.
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You need to floor it from a dead stop in the full power mode for the full effect. It's quite good but it will not feel that impressive if you don't commit or already have some speed since their power is only down low.

If you expect a rolling pull that just keeps going like an M340i it's not happening.

Interior is what it is, the S is better. Suspension is a weak point on all teslas if you expect it to feel German. They don't intend for it to talk to you like that.....

Still a good car but not at that price IMO, maybe at 30k it would be worth it once it's used.
That's not exactly true. My Y which has about 200 hp less pulls instantly from any speed scaring the beans out of any passenger. The base Model X has 670 hp...most of that goes to the wheels instantly. Torque is instant, no gears or turbos or other stuff to get in the way.

It is pricey though, which is why I wouldn't buy one
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
That's not exactly true. My Y which has about 200 hp less pulls instantly from any speed scaring the beans out of any passenger. The base Model X has 670 hp...most of that goes to the wheels instantly. Torque is instant, no gears or turbos or other stuff to get in the way
I've driven the X, it is exactly as he says.

Remember you came from an IS350 not a German car lol! A tiny NA V6 from Toyota is not anywhere near the competition so the massive gap in performance you experienced isn't there for people who are coming from what we have.

Keep in mind a LOT of German guys have 2.6-3.2 sec 0-60 cars that also keep the pull going past 60 much better than the non-plaid cars. I have one that is "only" 3.4 sec unless I use Amax mode and it destroys the non-plaid cars. Especially once we are moving or start from a roll
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Originally Posted by Striker223
I've driven the X, it is exactly as he says.

Remember you came from an IS350 not a German car lol! A tiny NA V6 from Toyota is not anywhere near the competition so the massive gap in performance you experienced isn't there for people who are coming from what we have.

Keep in mind a LOT of German guys have 2.6-3.2 sec 0-60 cars that also keep the pull going past 60 much better than the non-plaid cars. I have one that is "only" 3.4 sec unless I use Amax mode and it destroys the non-plaid cars. Especially once we are moving or start from a roll
I'm probably 20 years your senior, I've driven lots of fast cars over the last 30 years. I never thought the IS350 was fast. It was fast enough for my needs. In order for those German cars you mentioned to get those times, they need to use Launch control. I've taken out a lot of "fast" German cars off the line and on the freeway with my Polestar...and the Model X would easily beat my polestar. Off the line or in roll race
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My R1S is low 3s and unless I floor it, I would just categorize it as brisk. A friend of mine has a X5 M60i and it feels faster in day to day driving
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Anyway @Striker223 lets not get into a "who's is bigger" match. The Model X is an SUV and not a sports car, so it doesn't really matter in the long run. You haul your family in it not race a high end German car
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I'm probably 20 years your senior, I've driven lots of fast cars over the last 30 years. I never thought the IS350 was fast. It was fast enough for my needs. In order for those German cars you mentioned to get those times, they need to use Launch control. I've taken out a lot of "fast" German cars off the line and on the freeway with my Polestar...and the Model X would easily beat my polestar. Off the line or in roll race
My car doesn't have launch control and that's a true 0-60 time no rollout. Add about .3 sec to the model X time for the true 0-60. Try to take down a 4.0 car who is tuned and it will be exactly what I know it is.
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My R1S is low 3s and unless I floor it, I would just categorize it as brisk. A friend of mine has a X5 M60i and it feels faster in day to day driving
Yep, you need to floor it in an EV for the full pull.
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Originally Posted by Striker223
My car doesn't have launch control and that's a true 0-60 time no rollout. Try to take down a 4.0 car who is tuned and it will be exactly what I know it is.
I guess you didn't see my last post. It takes a tune, bolt-ons and mods to beat my stock, non sports car with full 10 year/100k drivetrain warranty fully intact. And I'm still getting like what, 80 MPG? Nothing I would want to brag about.

Anyway, lets end this. It's kind of silly arguing about this

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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Great review. With no engine to mask sounds, the 20" wheels bring in road noise, which is why I selected the 19" for my Y. The yoke is a no starter for me (I would get it with the regular steering wheel). It's been warm weather here in Northern Cal, the glass roof hasn't been an issue for me, but you can get a sun shade from the Tesla store (they will install it for you). Tesla is also very good at modulating throttle. Many times I find myself hitting 90 mph on the freeway (feels like I'm going 50 mph), so I have to turn on Autopilot (smart cruise control) to keep from speeding.
Tesla does not work like a dealership. Those cars you saw on the lot were most likely either ready to be delivered or were waiting for pickup. When I went to the Fremont showroom with my brother in law to pick up his Model 3, there were Tesla's as far as the eye can see. Every one of those was either waiting to be loaded on trucks or for customers to come pick them up
I wasn't saying about road noise. There's no road noise on this thing. I was saying about ambient noise.
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Yeah, $100K is too much for me. Money only spends once. I am anxious to see the Highland...
By the way, your review is far to honest; you do not qualify for fanboy status.
I see. No wonder your posts sound different.

Originally Posted by Striker223
You need to floor it from a dead stop in the full power mode for the full effect. It's quite good but it will not feel that impressive if you don't commit or already have some speed since their power is only down low.
If you expect a rolling pull that just keeps going like an M340i it's not happening.
Interior is what it is, the S is better. Suspension is a weak point on all teslas if you expect it to feel German. They don't intend for it to talk to you like that.....
Still a good car but not at that price IMO, maybe at 30k it would be worth it once it's used.
I would take it for 30K. Lol. Thanks for confirming my experience. Yeah I hear you. When needed, I just tap the paddle shifter and down shift and off I go. Lol. I guess we can't do that with EVs.

Originally Posted by Allen K
My R1S is low 3s and unless I floor it, I would just categorize it as brisk. A friend of mine has a X5 M60i and it feels faster in day to day driving
I wasn't sure if it was me and didn't want to sound "anti-tesla" () but if that's how you feel with M60i vs your R1S's low 3s then how I felt was valid. Mine is published at 5.3 but C&D clocked it at 4.8.
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