Interesting. Jasper Park Highway requires chains in the winter but people still get stranded that's a good highway to die on, in the dead of winter you might not see another car for hours.
https://calgaryherald.com/news/banff...g-june-19-2023

Conditions can be downright punishing I've driven in weather worse than this.

 

When Tahoe gets this bad, they just shutdown the roads

 

Jasper highway gets shut down as well there is a giant crossing arm that you totally can never ever drive around.

 

@LeX2K

Terrible ride quality has been known to be a common complaint of Model Y since it was first released. Google "model y harsh ride" "model y bad suspension" or "model y bumpy" and you'll see what I mean. The internet has been talking about it for a long time. If anything, you guys with good ride quality and no complaints would be in the minority.

 

As an owner of a gas vehicle and my friend being an EV owner and gas owner, one thing we do agree on, we do not like to extend road trips by stops (be it charging, bathroom, food). In a gas car on road trips, key in a destination on google maps and it gives you an arrival time. Key in that same road trip in Tesla planner and the arrival time will be later than traveling in a gas car, in your case almost an additional 40 min.

I’m not totally against EVs. I’m just not there yet, but I’m here to learn. I never knew the EQS existed until reading about it on this site and noticed my wife’s coworker just recently purchased one. For me personally, I need EVs to be able to “fill up the tank in 5 min” like you can a gas car.

We are a hybrid vehicle family so we have one foot in the EV world and one foot in gas world. Also I’m fully aware whenever I start my R4P and it displays my EV range without AC/heat but soon as I turn on the AC that range decreases before I shift out of park. I know how to mimic 1 pedal driving to put energy back into the battery and to extend EV range I know I can kill the AC to gain more range. Fortunately in a PHEV, I have gas as a backup but I drive this car like an EV. I have little over 10k miles and 9k of those miles are EV miles. The remaining 1k miles are gas road trips. Soon as I reach out of town destination, I switch back to EV mode for around town.

 

this is so me. I would definitely do try this. You never know what it can do unless you try it.

Fuel pumps hate me. I run em dry!!

Edit: I’ve ran out of gas 4x. Once in a Prius. However I learned what their limits are and that I’m an idiot.

 

Didn't they change the suspension starting in 2023? Ours, on the OE 20's, rides great! No complaints at all.

 

Yes, complaints from owners and journalists eventually caused them to finally release the comfort suspension. I haven't tried it yet but from what I've read, some people say it's great and made a huge difference, others say they notice no difference (people who have gone from older Model Ys without to newer ones with). I'd love to test drive a Y with the comfort suspension and same 20" wheels we have to see what's changed.

 

I fully respect that you are not ready to move to EV's. They are not perfect, and don't fill up in 10 minutes like a gas car, and their "tank" is not as big. But they will get there. It was not an overnight decision for me, I leased my first EV in 2020, and made my first trip in an EV last year, being extremely nervous about it. So I understand the reluctance.

I'm glad that you are at least asking questions and participating in the conversation, which means you are open minded. We will keep sharing our stories and experiences, and hopefully from that you will either decide to take the plunge, or make a decision EV are not for you, as they are not everyone at this point

 

The Model Y's suspension is definitely more on the stiff side, but its comfortable enough to handle bad roads. Where it can be more problematic is when you hit larger bumps, than you feel it more. And if you come from say a Lexus, you are going to notice it's stiffness. Anyway, here is someone who owns a 2020 Model Y testing a 2023:

 

Another enjoyable video from Gjeebs

 

yes thank you plus the charging infrastructure isn’t readily available where I am just yet. There’s only 8 SC stalls in my town and the next closest SC is over 50 miles away. Last week I was at Toyota dealer and I asked if I could use their charge point station and the service manager stated to me “it’s not working, welcome to the EV world. Luckily you have gas also.” Then I proceeded to a Nissan dealership but they only had 1 charger and had an Ariya using it.

Prior to purchasing my R4P I looked at leasing a Tesla but didn’t like the option to not being able to purchase after the lease expired. At the time I didn’t seriously consider other EV manufacturers.

 

If I was living where you are with limited charging, for sure I would not have made the move to EV's other than maybe a local commuter that's exclusively charged at home. My trip car would probably be something like an RX500H, which is a pretty amazingly comfortable SUV with decent power and efficiency.

Stick with what works best for you, and when the time is right you can evaluate if EV's are right for you. I traded one car at time, I still have one gas powered car left, a 2013 Sienna. It's paid off, still reliable, and has room that none of my other cars can match

 

what year is your Y? my understanding is in the past year or so they've made the 3/Y more comfortable.

yes, when i charged my rental 3 recently, at 30% it wasn't charging above 135kw, much like your graph.

i watched that earlier... and he says the sienna ride is a lot nicer than the model y.

 

He has a 2020 which as discussed, has a rougher ride. The only way the Sienna beats the Model Y is in space and comfort due to more room. Anyway I don't think he meant this as a Model Y vs Sienna.... two completely different vehicles. I just like his videos, they are funny