COMMENTS on FWD vs RWD vs AWD?
1st choice - full-time 4WD with Torsen central differential. Always there, always reliable.
2nd choice - front-biased AWD with torque vectoring. Best on slippery roads (rain, snow or ice)
3rd choice - any other type of AWD
4th choice - traditional 4WD with manual transfer case
5th choice - FWD
6th choice - RWD - biggest PITA to drive in snow or ice, or even heavy rain. Our BMW 528 wagon was fantastic on dry roads. But at first sight of snow we would always switch to our humble FWD Renault because the BMW was almost impossible to drive at any reasonable speed.
2nd choice - front-biased AWD with torque vectoring. Best on slippery roads (rain, snow or ice)
3rd choice - any other type of AWD
4th choice - traditional 4WD with manual transfer case
5th choice - FWD
6th choice - RWD - biggest PITA to drive in snow or ice, or even heavy rain. Our BMW 528 wagon was fantastic on dry roads. But at first sight of snow we would always switch to our humble FWD Renault because the BMW was almost impossible to drive at any reasonable speed.
1st choice - full-time 4WD with Torsen central differential. Always there, always reliable.
2nd choice - front-biased AWD with torque vectoring. Best on slippery roads (rain, snow or ice)
3rd choice - any other type of AWD
4th choice - traditional 4WD with manual transfer case
5th choice - FWD
6th choice - RWD - biggest PITA to drive in snow or ice, or even heavy rain. Our BMW 528 wagon was fantastic on dry roads. But at first sight of snow we would always switch to our humble FWD Renault because the BMW was almost impossible to drive at any reasonable speed.
2nd choice - front-biased AWD with torque vectoring. Best on slippery roads (rain, snow or ice)
3rd choice - any other type of AWD
4th choice - traditional 4WD with manual transfer case
5th choice - FWD
6th choice - RWD - biggest PITA to drive in snow or ice, or even heavy rain. Our BMW 528 wagon was fantastic on dry roads. But at first sight of snow we would always switch to our humble FWD Renault because the BMW was almost impossible to drive at any reasonable speed.
After seeing many of these comments, I think we can pretty much all agree on one thing (and I've said this for years). FWD and AWD, particularly without winter tires, is definitely better on slick surfaces than RWD....but ONLY to get the vehicle moving or accelerating from a stop and to prevent it from getting stuck. FWD and RWD will NOT necessary help you to steer or stop any better when it is slick.......that is the job of ABS and stability control.
... 6th choice - RWD - biggest PITA to drive in snow or ice, or even heavy rain. Our BMW 528 wagon was fantastic on dry roads. But at first sight of snow we would always switch to our humble FWD Renault because the BMW was almost impossible to drive at any reasonable speed.
Even with winter tires our RWD BMW wouldn't reach many Alpine ski places when we lived in Europe.
What are we considering dedicated? I have two cars on severe rated tires that perform on par with true winter only shoes since one needs them to be reliable in all weather and the other I just never want to have to care at all about anything.
These days I prefer FWD with winter tires. The only AWD option I would consider would be a FWD hybrid with a rear electric motor for make it AWD. I am surprised Lexus did not release such a combination ES. They tested it in Japan and it would be essentially the same powertrain as hybrid Rav4. Instead they released ES250 AWD based on non-hybrid Rav4 and nobody was excited about it.
Last edited by LaZeR; Apr 23, 2023 at 10:59 PM.
My wife has been racking miles on the 430 like and though and she has been using it all year round and it has 35k a year with her.....it's the RWD with tires that are severe rated. Other one is the Jeep but it can operate as an AWD or locked 4x4 as desired
* Performance (key word) All Season tires are fine for MOST states with little to no snow.
* ALL OTHER regions especially prone to heavy rain, freezing cold, snow & ice, two dedicated sets of tires/wheels for: 1) spring - summer - fall, and 2) winter months.
* With a full set of Winter tires it's a blast o FUN driving crazy with RWD in deep snow & black ice, and a refreshing pleasurable change when spring comes around and swapping out for Summer tires. ENJOY your ride, don't just drive from A to B, and back.
Last edited by LaZeR; Apr 24, 2023 at 09:24 AM.
I can tell ya'll how to drive in heavy rain and storm weather but Ice & snow I know nothing about.
Honestly it terrifies me thinking about sliding in the ice but I know I'd need something to help me.
Maybe some snow tires and looking like AWD is a must from what many posters are saying.
Honestly it terrifies me thinking about sliding in the ice but I know I'd need something to help me.
Maybe some snow tires and looking like AWD is a must from what many posters are saying.











