LaZeR - link to (dumb) article?

anyone who's driven a porsche with awd will never think of it as slow, and for performance cars, getting the power to the ground with awd is incredible vs just burning tires.

For some reason this made me chuckle.

My GS350 rwd couldn't make it back into garage just a little bit of freeze, and RAV4 in and out without any problem, and GS tires are AS, relatively new.

Yep, it's awesome going to full steering lock and flooring it from a dead stop in the rain and still getting a sub 4 0-60.

Yes, I had an RWD IS300 that had the same problem, even with traction-control and snow mode for the engine/transmissison. It fishtailed all over the place in a hard freeze on the roads.

I don't think you know just how much better the 3gs is over the ES.

The 3GS in particular...?
I mean, I have one and... it's not exactly known for being the pinnacle of Lexus build quality. Look up the interior squeals/rattles/etc thread from back in the day when they were new.

If you don't care for the drivetrain and never push it even slightly other than a straight line here and there, the GS has pretty much nothing to offer over the ES. If you do, the ES is out of the question from the get-go.

Very easy to slide in the heavy rain down here in Florida running RWD unless tires are fresh.

BUT, on the upside, much easier to chirp the tires or rev the motor and neutral drop and ROAST the tires with RWD if ya want to.

Need the horsepower to do it or worn tires tho.

Modern RWD cars are much easier to drive in the snow, my RWD LS460L was 80% as easy to drive in the snow as my AWD LS460. Modern skid and traction control has come a long way.

Yeah no clue on that one.

Says the guy who didn't know whether it was FWD or RWD...

Well obviously I wasn't referring to the drive. But everything else the 3gs is way better. I've had both cars.

That's true, but would you brave winters with RWD and winter tires if you lived outside Boston, rather than DC?

What specifically is better? The GS has some nicer materials in places (its more expensive), but the interiors of the 3GS and that generation ES are very similar. The drive is the one big way the GS is superior. The rest of the package though is not that different from the ES. 4GS was a huge upgrade to the 3GS, but I felt no need to pay extra for the GS over the ES when I bought my 2010 ES other than the RWD vs FWD.

Of course the GS is a better car, its more expensive...

With winter tires? Absolutely.

Wasn't aimed at me, but Chicagoland gets about the same amount of snow annually as Boston, and I can tell you with absolute certainty that RWD on Winter Tires is WAY safer than AWD on All-seasons. It's not even close. That said, the Q7 on Blizzaks is a friggin' tank

helloooo review the article... and from personal experience... RWD with Snow Tires easily handles snow & ice... Did y'all install winter tires?

CORRECTAMUNDO ding ding ding ding ding... but especially more so with Snow Tires!

My A4 "Allroad" wagon that I have tracked as well as use for roadtrips is AWD, however I so wish it was a RWD. Would've preferred to get an 09-12 E91 328i wagon with RWD as I had the sedan version previously, but they're incredibly hard to find especially lower mileages with the right spec.

I have tried to make my Allroad handle pretty nicely and it does, obviously can't drive it like a RWD car, I can definitely make the rear swing out a bit as well when messing with weight transfers, higher TW tires, and stiffer springs/shocks in the rear.

Driven in the snow in semi slicks on my Allroad as well as on summer tires in my RWD E90.. and honestly, I've determined that your tire matters so much more than just simply "AWD vs FWD vs RWD" in the snow (no I didn't get stuck haha) Granted it wasn't heavy snow, but it was during a proper snowstorm for both in the mountains for both occasions.

But yeah, overall, I prefer RWD the most followed by longitudinal RWD-biased AWD like another user mentioned here... next car in a few years definitely has to be an E92 M3 or an S2000 for me (though I still wouldn't mind a V8 AWD RS5 either) unless I can afford that upcoming B10-gen "S5/ RS 5 Avant"