and to go from good to better they should add horse and buggy, pigeon and a donkey. 🤦‍♂️😂😂😂😂😂

 

don’t know. I just know that Hyundai is really forward thinking. I support Hyundai here.


here is KIA with their battery platform on display. I think Hyundai Motor Group was really smart to just keep it battery.

 

Did you actually order a Hyundai? You're very vocal about how "anti Hyundai" you are.

 

@Hameed I support Hyundai’s vision in the development of hybrid, battery and hydrogen. It’s also good Hyundai is developing SSD batteries.

 

If this is wah I like it in a Back to The Future kinda way.
And- I'm digging those pie plate shape rims, I could do this.
Ok, I'm embarrassed to admit it but oh well, it is what it is... lol

I was going to ask that too but now I know. lol
All about the WAH. haha

They already have all that tech and can still get it if peeps need it.
PS- I see you are a new member so welcome to Club Lexus!

 

In 2016, Tesla and Panasonic invested in US factory.
In 2020, Toyota partnered with Panasonic 51:49 for factory in Japan - you must wait for this to come to fruition.
As a result, it is true that Japanese battery production is behind both Chinese and Korean production.
Be patient.
They are looking at more sites to expand their joint venture.
It will be gradually expanded to supply 500,000 vehicles/year.
Presently, this is the reason for huge waiting lists on TMC PHEV's and such limited supply of TMC BEV's.

 

The amount of "stuff people didn't know, totally don't understand but found on Google and will try to pass off as actual knowledge" on here has gone off the charts lately.

And rarely more so than on this particular thread.

 

I'm actually trying to figure out the purpose of this thread. I mean I could make a guess....

Useless information.... Useless thread

 

Is this thread about Hyundai? Hydrogen?

 

It's a wishlist thread like what one would send to Santa- in other words useless and full of misinformation.

 

thanks. in their own words here too. wah is the syllable sound in korean for an exclamation point.
https://www.hyundaicanada.com/en/wah

it's a nice campaign. for toyota is should be 'EHH"

 

Bottom line, TMC is still bullish on Hybrids.

Last year, TMC commanded 11.5% global market share or 10 million vehicles, yet TMC sold only roughly 20k EV's!
VW AG only 8.2M, yet VW AG sol 331k EV's.
Hyundai only 6.8M, yet Hyundai sold 220M EV's.

TMC is deliberately holding back on EV's because they have such a large market and try to please most.
TMC also hold back on EV's due to low profitability.
Keep in mind that TMC has the highest "equity" in the world with nearly US$200B.

 

<cough> i think you meant hyundai sold 220k not 200M

problem is, ice cars are getting so expensive, ev's WILL be undercutting them in price soon. that's a HUGE problem if companies like toyota have strategically decided to 'wait'.
hybrid cars are incredibly complicated and more expensive to make than straight ice cars and VASTLY more complicated than ev's. phev's are even worse.

remember, govts are pretty universally AGAINST everything automotive but ev's at this point. sure the consumer gets a vote too, but if prices keep climbing, fewer will be able to afford any vehicles using part time or full time fossil fuels.

 

bit, you got me with the typo error!

When did that YT video estimate ICEV & EV would reach cost parity? 2030?

Panasonic only invested US$1.6B to <$US$5B with Tesla.
Whereas, TMC has 51% shareholding and invested a whopping US$13.6B into Japanese battery factory with Panasonic.
So, it will be interesting how TMC starts ramping up their EV's.​​​​​​​

TMC is a little bit late to the party with EV's, and they could just be playing around with everybody...

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Imagine telling your investors that you're just playing around with them and their money lol. Toyota has their own share of issues but they're nothing like the fantasy that's being conjured in this thread.