2025 Toyota Camry (380D Program)
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The Accord may be a re-skin to some extent but they made colossal changes to the body in white. its professional ACE structure has been greatly strengthened performing marvelously in SI2.0
Hopefully the TNGA-K update (TNGA MARK 2) also gets some improvements.
Current TNGA/K is kind of long in the tooth safety wise with its weak side structure, elevated torso/pelvis injury, and poor rear passenger kinematics. needs some big updates.
I stand with the 2023 Accord as its beyond excellent (and trust me i'm a long time honda hater/criticiser) and hope Toyota can do a great job with the next Camry!!! I hated the Accord at first but when I saw what they did with it, i'm impressed. Not the best styling but on the other hand its the kind of styling that will age well. That's going back to honda's conservative roots vs. the (older last gen) ugly civics and flame surfaced prior gen accord theyve been putting out.
Hopefully the TNGA-K update (TNGA MARK 2) also gets some improvements.
Current TNGA/K is kind of long in the tooth safety wise with its weak side structure, elevated torso/pelvis injury, and poor rear passenger kinematics. needs some big updates.
I stand with the 2023 Accord as its beyond excellent (and trust me i'm a long time honda hater/criticiser) and hope Toyota can do a great job with the next Camry!!! I hated the Accord at first but when I saw what they did with it, i'm impressed. Not the best styling but on the other hand its the kind of styling that will age well. That's going back to honda's conservative roots vs. the (older last gen) ugly civics and flame surfaced prior gen accord theyve been putting out.
Small overlap front (the most challenging frontal test), driver's side
Small overlap front, passenger side
Moderate overlap front, original test
Side, original test
Side, updated test
Roof strength
Head restraints & seats
Evidence: https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle...oor-sedan/2023
Your constant trolling slams at Lexus and Toyota sedans since you sold your two ES 300h's for a Tesla are beyond tiresome on this Lexus board. Please stop the stream of falsehoods in your desperate effort to get attention and rationalize your purchase decisions, at least one of which you evidently consider an expensive mistake.
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The Accord may be a re-skin to some extent but they made colossal changes to the body in white. its professional ACE structure has been greatly strengthened performing marvelously in SI2.0
Hopefully the TNGA-K update (TNGA MARK 2) also gets some improvements.
Current TNGA/K is kind of long in the tooth safety wise with its weak side structure, elevated torso/pelvis injury, and poor rear passenger kinematics. needs some big updates.
I stand with the 2023 Accord as its beyond excellent (and trust me i'm a long time honda hater/criticiser) and hope Toyota can do a great job with the next Camry!!! I hated the Accord at first but when I saw what they did with it, i'm impressed. Not the best styling but on the other hand its the kind of styling that will age well. That's going back to honda's conservative roots vs. the (older last gen) ugly civics and flame surfaced prior gen accord theyve been putting out.
Hopefully the TNGA-K update (TNGA MARK 2) also gets some improvements.
Current TNGA/K is kind of long in the tooth safety wise with its weak side structure, elevated torso/pelvis injury, and poor rear passenger kinematics. needs some big updates.
I stand with the 2023 Accord as its beyond excellent (and trust me i'm a long time honda hater/criticiser) and hope Toyota can do a great job with the next Camry!!! I hated the Accord at first but when I saw what they did with it, i'm impressed. Not the best styling but on the other hand its the kind of styling that will age well. That's going back to honda's conservative roots vs. the (older last gen) ugly civics and flame surfaced prior gen accord theyve been putting out.
i'm just happy to hear the sedans are running as long as they are, so let's enjoy these sedans as long as we can until they inevitably become something else as stated or nixed altogether.
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FYI everyone, the Accord sedan is dead in 2027 when production of the latest generation model concludes. I learned that sometime in late 2021, even before the new 2023 debuted. Honda is done with that car and cares much more about the Civic. The Accord will go Crosstour again (ala Crown and Outback), but probably designed better this time around and maybe hybrid only. The goal was to use the 2018 Accord basis for 10 years, then replace it with an all new vehicle currently under development as a crossover and no longer a sedan. Toyota has too many vehicles I imagine to bother doing that with the 2031 Camry.
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