JDMV8 "Build" Thread/Progression: Dec. 2011 - Present
Just curious to see how your Kein gearbox mount held up and whether the NVH has decreased over time? The opinion on these mounts seem very divided on this forum.
i have had urethane gearbox mounts in a few of my previous cars. While I did notice some increase in NVH but it wasn’t unbearable and sometimes they even “wear in” after a while and you don’t even notice it’s there.
The performance enhancement on urethane gearbox mounts were great! Only thing is my experience with them are limited to manual transmission and my current car is my first AT. so curious to see your long term review on these.
I found Xcessive engineering sell urethane mounts for Lexus/ Toyota rwd AT applications with the exact same design as Kein, just using urethane instead of rubber, so these are the ones I’m planning to go with.
thanks!
Those bars circled unfortunately do not fit the ISF, unless you drill into the underbody, but even then not feasible.
Comparison to ISF: the ISF is much more of a "track car" and is far more raw. You feel the difference in weight, especially because the RS4's engine sits at the very front of the car. Both cars are very rewarding to go WOT. I think the ISF is more quickly gratifying because it's powerband is shorter as is its rev limit. Since my RS4 revs to 8500rpm, it takes "more effort" per se, to have fun, similar to an S2000. However, it is extremely gratifying hearing a Formula 1 derived high revving V8 wind up from 2000 to 8000 RPM. It's hard to say which is more enjoyable, so I suppose it depends on my mood of the day.
As a daily, I think the RS4 is very competent. The 6-speed Getrag manual is very easy and enjoyable to drive. The gear throws feel like a 997 S except less precise essentially. The suspension is more dailyable than the ISF (vs stock ISF and vs with coilovers).
I have launch control from a flash tune in the RS4 and off the line the RS4 seems faster. It's very easy to launch by gingerly slipping the clutch.
Additionally, I bought this car with 86k miles. I already had to perform more repairs within 3k miles with the RS4 than I had to with the ISF (which weren't a product of self-sabotage) over the span of 10 years

Changed a throttle body, DIY fixed nav/radio antenna, changed PCV hosing, changed vacuum piping, changed a coolant pipe (this cracked because I sneezed near it--so brittle). Audi parts are so expensive...and it is way harder to work on the RS4 than it has been for any Japanese car I've worked on.
Overall, both cars feel special to me. Some of the last N/A analog sports sedans.
I put on a 2.75" exhaust (x pipe and axleback), ram air intake, and had a flash tune uploaded (which made a huge difference in fun factor). Finished off with a detail. Done modding this thing! Will be keeping it strictly OEM from now.
Had to replace the GruppeM MAF tube with one from MRP with honeycomb air straightener. GruppeM MAF led to drivability issues and loss of power throughout the rev range.
Reserved for RS4 progress, hosting photos:
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I upgraded the front calipers to GSF/RCF calipers (using RR racing aluminum adapter) and RR Racing GSF/RCF 2 piece rotors. I'm loving the difference in stopping power. Here's the difference between the ISF and GSF calipers.
I also threw in the rear wilwood 4 pistons calipers for more balanced braking bias.
I used speedbleeders and brake bleeding was almost enjoyable. I also used Techstream to further bleed the system (Techstream engages and bleeds the ABS pump--you just have to undo one bleeder--though it cannot be a speedbleeder, which is fine since the rear wilwood calipers have multiple bleeders).
I also shipped my front LCAs to FIGs to get spherical bushings pressed into the front-most mount on the LCAs. Now I have all spherical bushings in the front suspension of the car, no rubber (polyurethane in the steering rack). I added an Ultra Racing chassis bar that connects the steering rack and front-most LCA mounting points together as well.
The steering and turn-in feels very Porsche-like now (I've driven a 997 Carrera S), still needs alignment. Love it! Next are some new tires, Falken RT660 (have tried ad08r, r888, mpsc2), so I'm looking forward to trying a new brand.
I really love being able to put everything in place and torque it down without having to preload the bushings! Super bonus for poly/solid bushings.
The other important thing was getting the subframe centered and squared. Big help with performance and balance there. I have a thread on it, but need to get a video up.
I really love being able to put everything in place and torque it down without having to preload the bushings! Super bonus for poly/solid bushings.
The other important thing was getting the subframe centered and squared. Big help with performance and balance there. I have a thread on it, but need to get a video up.
I also have the -42 steering ECU. This car is so good...
What are your camber and toe settings?
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FYI, I had -3 F, -2.5 R, liked that a lot but it seriously ate the front tires. -2F is OK on tires.
I want to mention to anyone using the Techstream airbleeding procedure for brakes, which I believe is great. I have speed bleeders which makes the procedure not doable without pressing the brake pedal (which you are not to do in the cycling of the ABS pump). The procedure calls for cycling the ABS pump and bleeding it through the right front or rear caliper. So, my right rear caliper (RR wilwoods) doesn't have speedbleeders, while every other caliper does. The procedure worked like a charm and honestly the brakes feel better than they've ever had for the past 10 years (they've only been conventionally bled in my ownership, not with Techstream).
In other non-Lexus news, I traded in my s2000 for an evo 9 some months ago. Evo 9 is a special car--only made for one year, IMO the most desirable evo (although I do like the evo 6 as well).
Normally, I like to mod my cars myself but this Evo 9 was too good to pass up on--has a built engine by boostin performance with a precision 6466, all built drivetrain components, twin disk clutch (feels amazing), etc. It is so ridiculously fun (fast and precise) that I turn into a little kid driving it. The steering precision and feedback is unlike any other car I've driven. Blows the Audi out of the park with that in my opinion, but the ISF, with suspension mods, honestly holds a candle to the Evo in the steering/handling department. ISF is going to feel more numb naturally, but with the increased caster and all metal bushings in front and only some suspension mods in the back, it really is great! I think I constantly praise the ISF on here, naturally, but I cannot think of a better all-around car.
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I really love being able to put everything in place and torque it down without having to preload the bushings! Super bonus for poly/solid bushings.
The other important thing was getting the subframe centered and squared. Big help with performance and balance there. I have a thread on it, but need to get a video up.
I also shipped my front LCAs to FIGs to get spherical bushings pressed into the front-most mount on the LCAs. Now I have all spherical bushings in the front suspension of the car, no rubber (polyurethane in the steering rack). I added an Ultra Racing chassis bar that connects the steering rack and front-most LCA mounting points together as well.
The steering and turn-in feels very Porsche-like now (I've driven a 997 Carrera S), still needs alignment. Love it! Next are some new tires, Falken RT660 (have tried ad08r, r888, mpsc2), so I'm looking forward to trying a new brand.









